The new photographer is going to start with 5d3. Budget 3W. I am wondering whether the first red circle is 2470 or 70200 ... mainly shooting portraits, landscapes and macro.

If you choose between the two, it is recommended to enter the 24-70 F2.8 generation first. The price is more than 12 thousand, just within your budget, and it is also a common hang-up head.

It's best to enter the first generation, the second generation is too expensive ... and the latest 24-70 F4 aperture is very small, mainly for 6D machines, and the invincible third generation is still equipped with F2.8

24-70 F2.8 can meet your needs of shooting humanities, portraits and landscapes. 24 wide angle can shoot landscapes, covering 35mm, 50mm and 70mm common focal lengths (although it is zoom), which can meet the needs of portraits and conventional humanities films that don't need much sugar water in daily life.

Moreover, the ultra-high sharpness and the constant aperture of F2.8 can also make ultra-pure films with a tripod at night.

Actually, I suggest matching these lenses. 5D3 is now 18000, so you have a budget surplus of about 12000, so you can match a F4L with 17-40. Although it is a small three yuan, the quality is not covered. After all, it is an L-class lens, and the ultra-wide angle of 17mm is convenient for shooting landscapes and buildings, and the price is less than 5,000 yuan.

Although these two lenses are not top-notch lenses, they are both excellent lenses with red circles and L signs. Of course, they are not as good as some better lenses, but their comprehensive strength is just as awesome. Besides, your problem now obviously belongs to those who don't know much about the camera. Great, I don't know how to control and run in. It is suggested to start with the easy-to-use lenses. These two lenses have common convenient focal length, excellent optical quality and low price. In your budget, later, you began to have higher requirements, and these two shots are also very good. At that time, it's up to you to release these two shots and change them to 16-35, 24-70, 70-200 F2.8, etc. Because you know the lens, how to use it and your own needs, you won't ask such questions but answer them to others.