Is the Canon EOS R better to use or the 5D4? Why do so many people regret selling the 5D4 for the EOS R?

I think it is a matter of operational experience. Let me analyze it and see if what I say makes sense.

First, the operating experience affects the shooting mood!

As long as they have played 5d4, most of them have used 5d3,2, and have become accustomed to the control mode. They mainly use the viewfinder and eyepiece for hand blindness. The operation is very familiar with various buttons. Fortunately, there is a shoulder screen for the R. Otherwise, there will be more complaints, because people who have used mid-range or above SLRs are already used to looking at the shoulder screen parameters. The main function of the R is touch control. You need to adapt to all kinds of parameter setting habits. Users who have been shooting for several years or ten years will find it very troublesome and affect their shooting mood. After all, blind operation is very convenient.

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2. Transfer Ring, I can bear it, the money is gone, you are still you

I deceive myself that the adapter ring is lossless, a little longer does not matter, etc. In fact, after playing 5d4, there is a lot of lens storage, so I thought I would use an adapter The transition went smoothly. With the sci-fi idea of ??mirrorless replacing SLR, who can really cut off all the meat and replace it with mirrorless lenses? Then the moment you transfer it, you are destined to just lie to yourself that the transfer is OK, but once you use it, you will feel that it is not possible. Now, let’s switch to a mirrorless lens. Is it good or bad? I can only say that there is not much difference between L-level lenses from the same manufacturer and the same focal length. If there is, then you may not be able to experience it under different light ratios. The only way to experience it is if you run out of money. You are still you.

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Three, image quality , is there any point in exchanging a good one for an okay one!

Everyone uses the word "balanced" to evaluate the 5d4. The picture quality, high sensitivity and speed are all good. Many classic works are produced by this machine. It can be said that from the perspective of the camera The manufacturing level can already meet the needs of human photography. Even if technology develops in the future, if the imaging structure of cameras and lenses remains unchanged, it will be a pixel war. Ordinary photography is of little significance, just like computers. Twenty years have passed, and the main frequency has also changed. It's not a big upgrade, it's just a few cores. Ordinary users can't feel it. R? The high sensitivity is okay, the picture quality is okay, the speed is okay, and the price is low. I really don't know the meaning of trading 5d4 for R. (Auxiliary machine is OK)

To sum up, it’s not a complaint about changing machines, it’s a complaint about whether your level has not improved after changing machines. [Shy]

I forgot to talk about weight, I really should forget about it [Flash of inspiration]

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Hello everyone! I have a 5D3 in my hand and have been using it for more than 2 years. In January this year, I bought another EOS R+ adapter, mainly to use two cameras with lenses of different focal lengths when shooting, so as to avoid frequent lens changes. trouble. I have been using EOS R for about half a year, and I have some small experiences that I would like to share with you.

1. Feel

The EOS R feels quite good in the hand. It fits well when held in the right hand, and the finger operation position is acceptable.

2. Operation

After being used to the 5D3, I started to feel uncomfortable with the operation of the EOS R. Mainly because some operations must be completed on the touch screen, but it didn’t take long to get used to it. I got used to it, especially the most important operation keys, such as the shutter button, back focus key, lock key, dial, etc., which have basically remained unchanged.

What I want to complain about is the touch bar. I tried it a few times at first, but now I basically don’t use it anymore.

3. Shooting sound feeling

Because the EOS R is mirrorless, the shutter sound is relatively dull, while the 5D3 has a reflector sound when shooting, which sounds crisp and clear. Shooting with the 5D3 feels more exciting and exciting.

4. Image quality

The EOS R is 30.3 million pixels, and the 5D3 is 24.3 million pixels. On the EOS R, I used an EF mount lens through an adapter ring, which is different from the 5D3. In comparison, I don’t feel that the picture quality is particularly good or bad, just about the same. Perhaps it is because my personal level is relatively average. A detailed evaluation should have a set of relatively scientific and rigorous testing procedures.

5. Focus

I don’t feel that the dual-core focus of the EOS R is much better than the focus of the 5D3! When the edges of the focus point are blurry, it even feels hesitant to focus, which is not as decisive as the 5D3. I don’t know the reason for this. Is it caused by the adapter ring?

Overall, I still like the EOS R camera, especially when hiking more intensively. In order to lighten the burden as much as possible, I can only bring one camera and one lens, and I always bring the EOS R+. 2470.

Thank you!

Many people switch to EosR, partly for the few RF mount lenses, such as the newly released high-quality 50 1.2, 85 1.2, etc... However, although the lenses are good, the body still has many Big potential for improvement, and the lens is very expensive. The lens is not much lighter and is just as heavy... In addition, there is still some gap between it and the SLR 5D4 in terms of durability and sports subjects such as bird hunting.

A few days ago in the park, I saw an enthusiast using Sony’s new 200-600 telephoto camera with the A7R3 to shoot birds. To be honest, the photos taken are really good, but there is something I don’t like about the A7R3’s controls, which feels a bit awkward. I always feel that it is not as convenient to use as the Canon. If you want to see the zoomed-in picture, you need to touch the screen with your hand and click the big button. The response speed may be slow because of the film. It is not as easy as the Canon to enlarge the photo by pressing the zoom button and shaking the screen. Use the lever to move the photo.

Although the EOS R has advantages over the EOS 5D Mark IV such as image quality and focus, its shortcomings have been criticized by commercial photographers.

Some netizens have reported that the EOS R’s high-speed continuous shooting speed is not satisfactory. Although the EOS R has a silent purely electronic shutter, it cannot use the electronic shutter in continuous shooting mode. It still uses the traditional focal plane curtain shutter and turns on servo focus (continuous tracking focus), which is the highest continuous shooting after AF-C. The speed is only 5 frames per second, which is not as good as the Canon EOS 5D Mark IV with a mirror structure. At the same time, Canon EOS R will also experience shooting freezes and lags during continuous shooting.

EOS R takes time to get used to. But there is one very obvious advantage: the focus is very accurate. No matter what lens you click on, it will not be out of focus, especially when using the back screen. However, the disadvantage is also focusing. When the viewfinder is focusing, it is very troublesome to move the focus point; although the back screen focusing is good, the holding posture is a big problem, and the back screen is difficult to see clearly under strong light.

Changing to R itself makes a lot of sense, but unfortunately the full-frame mirrorless lenses from the three companies are still big, heavy and expensive, and even bigger, heavier and more expensive. Under the impact of mobile phone photography, it is understandable to choose a more professional direction for the camera, but it will only deter more novices and even enthusiasts. This kind of neglect of the raging Internet wave and self-admiration will only bring about a more bleak GAME OVER

Confirm the subjects you often shoot. You can choose either one according to your needs.

There are operational differences between Eos r and 5d4. They use the same coms. Many SLR users need time to adapt to switching to mirrorless. Personally, I prefer eos r

I have both SLR and mirrorless cameras. I have nothing to regret. The eosr has its characteristics, and the 5d4 also has its characteristics. Find out what you need. Just buy it.