The makeup of the 87 version of A Dream of Red Mansions feels so heavy that everyone is shattered. what do you think?

Suddenly caught a glimpse of this problem, I suddenly felt that it can be said that the makeup problem is not the hardest hit area of 87 families. It can even be said that the makeup of 87 is quite brilliant in various versions of A Dream of Red Mansions.

In order to turn off some fan filters, I try to choose screenshots of stills instead of retouching them.

First of all, let's talk about the makeup of 87 87. There are the following problems: Pinger Xifeng's face is white and unnatural, Daiyu Tanchun and other actors have fluctuating facial values, and her hair bangs look greasy.

For example, when I first met Granny Liu, Xifeng's face was surprisingly white.

In addition, her eyebrows are very thin, which highlights her white face more and more. Pinger's face is also extremely white in this scene. I don't know if it was made by the same makeup artist, and the reason for the indoor lighting.

Another example is Daiyu. In the first scene on the boat, the bangs were messy, and it could be seen that the powder was a bit thick.

The bad thing is that Chen is fat and thin (after all, the crew loves props first). Because the shooting span is relatively large, sometimes Daiyu will be a little fat, and the face value in front of the camera will suddenly become lower.

Daiyu was obviously fat when she buried the flowers.

Also, when I first moved into the Grand View Garden, I had a big face.

But then a close-up shot was extremely beautiful, indicating that it was caused by a series of reasons such as makeup, modeling and lighting.

Tanchun is similar. When I was in Xue Luan, I felt emmmm, as if she had gained weight, her eyebrows were a little thick and her powder was a little thick.

Look at the comparison of other makeup, my favorite makeup.

Limited by the times, there are many problems, but great efforts have been made in makeup. Each role has different shapes and costumes, which serve its own role and character, as well as its own identity and class. This is very valuable.

Second, let's talk about 89. If you can't stand the thick powder and low face value of 87, you can't accept 89, because everyone's face looks greasy and uncomfortable.

This is Daiyu's first shot. Do you think this powder is not thick?

Then keep a straight face, sister, are you a little hot, sweaty and greasy?

The following picture is more obvious, pulling the grinder and the later period out to worship heaven.

Besides, it's not just Daiyu's problem. Xifeng got the trick:

Ke Qing was confessed:

Baochai was confessed:

The whole article is launched in this greasy atmosphere, full of beautiful women. Although it still looks good with this greasy makeup, this greasy look is really unbearable.

Third, finally, 10 I didn't mean to be sarcastic. This thing really can't be called a dream of red mansions. Although the first two have makeup problems, they still have makeup. 10 How dare you say make-up?

Don't pull your forehead makeup. The title of 10 is modeled after Kunqu opera. This is called forehead hair, or patch, which is technically called small bend and big willow. Frontal makeup means that the forehead is yellow and the bud is far away from the film. If you want to know this, you can read my analysis article, so I won't go into details.

Don't mention the rest. Where are your eyebrows? Didn't you draw your eyebrows then? Widow Li Wan has no eyebrows. Widows don't have to draw.

Daiyu has no eyebrows.

Baochai has no eyebrows when exploring spring and cherishing spring.

Qin Keqing doesn't have eyebrows either, but people have eye shadow, green eye shadow, which is in sync with nails.

Looking for a circle, Wang Xifeng drew eyeliner. Can she afford it alone? You can draw eyeliner. Why don't you draw an eyebrow?

Actually, the old lady doesn't have eyebrows either.

Does this makeup look good?

Lin Daiyu didn't frown like a cigarette, Baochai didn't have red lips, her eyebrows were green and she didn't draw them, Feng didn't have willow leaves to raise her eyebrows, and what's more, Cao Xueqin was talking nonsense. Are director Li and all the actors correct?

If this is also called makeup, do you want other crews and makeup artists to live?

Why do people wear makeup? First of all, it must be for beauty. Secondly, it is an attitude towards life. In TV series, it demands more:

First, it looks good and makes the audience feel comfortable. Which audience likes actors without color? For example, Li Xinjie in "Big Man", this sister is a must in ghost movies, but this martial arts drama looks dull and photogenic. Do you like it? Her daily state is not as good as that of the maid, and she was given a second by other actresses in the play.

Second, your makeup must be for the role, in order to show the role's reaction at different stages. For example, a series of makeup changes of Wu Zetian.

The same is true of Zhen Huan's biography. Different makeup and shapes intuitively show Zhen Xuan's mental journey.

Looking back on the makeup problem of 87, what else do you want to say?

-pills.

Text: Qimen Xiao Xie

How can it be strange? The characters in A Dream of Red Mansions should appear in black and pink like this.

Ancient ladies paid great attention to make-up. Look at the photos of Qing Dynasty Wanrong and concubines. Even in black and white photos, it is obvious that the eyebrows are slender and dark, and the lipstick is very black. The hairstyle is meticulous and the hair accessories are dignified and elegant.

It can be seen that heavy makeup was popular among nobles at that time. They usually have nothing to do and can't go out to play at will. It must be exquisite to dress yourself up at home.

A Dream of Red Mansions describes a noble family, which is not only very rich, but also has a high status. The sons and ladies at home are sloppy in appearance and can never be seen without makeup. Moreover, there were many rules and regulations of feudal ethics at that time, and girls had to dress themselves up carefully. Every move of aristocratic women is strictly supervised, and they will be punished by family rules because of their untidy appearance and incomplete dress.

In A Dream of Red Mansions, many well-known consultants and redologists were invited to check all the details. The pavilions, streets, furnishings, tables and chairs, every move, smiles and so on were all carefully studied and designed by experts. Actor's makeup is the most important thing, which should not only conform to the characteristics of the times, but also reflect the personality of the characters, be generous and decent, and conform to the public aesthetic concept. Everyone's makeup is cautious and is decided by many people.

In a dream of red mansions, "two bends are like frowns, and a pair of eyes are like tears." It is a description of Lin Daiyu, who was born with two sorrows and suffered from a disease. Makeup artist Yang Yunhe and fashion designer Shi Yanqin designed a light-colored costume and makeup for Lin Daiyu. Even if there is embroidery on the skirt and piping, it is mainly simple and elegant flowers such as plum blossoms and orchids, and the embroidery is exquisite. Pure and elegant, there is an extraordinary fairy spirit.

I have seen Yang Shuyun talk about how to make up Daiyu before. The appearance of Daiyu's eyebrows was determined after careful discussion and study of various ancient books. At that time, they saw that Zhuo Wenjun's eyebrows in Miscellanies of Xijing read "The eyebrows in the distant mountains are light and curved, and they forget the distant mountains", so they decided to paint Daiyu's eyebrows gray-blue, which is in line with Daiyu's morbid beauty and physiological characteristics. At the same time, they also studied Yang Guifei's makeup, called tear makeup, autumn makeup and worry makeup. Compared with history, it analyzes what it means to frown without frowning. Not only that, they also browsed the portraits of Daiyu painted by many famous painters, and they were scrutinized by the red scientist Shen Congwen. Combining so many factors, I finally set up makeup for Daiyu. How can you draw such fine eyebrows without being close to the original?

For Xue Baochai's makeup design, it reflects its gorgeous warmth, which is completely different from Lin Daiyu's elegance. Not only that, the makeup of each girl in the play is carefully designed, and considering that girls often live together, if the colors are too messy, it will cause a sense of disorder and disharmony. Therefore, in different scenes with many people and few people, the collocation of clothes is different, and it is very attentive.

The makeup of version 87 looks very harmonious, and it also conforms to the identity of the characters, which is very personal. It's rare to shoot a play with such care now.

In ancient times, lead powder for women's makeup was only whiter and more unnatural than this. The 87th edition still restored the clothing and makeup effect at that time.

I don't know when you were born. I watched A Dream of Red Mansions when I was a child after 80s. I think all the girls in it are beautiful, and the makeup is not strange. If you are after 00, it is normal for you to feel strange.

I agree with the author's comments on the TV series A Dream of Red Mansions directed by Li 1989. However, I can't agree with criticizing the 87th edition of A Dream of Red Mansions.

It took three years to make this film in 1987, and the actors will definitely change. Some people even get married and have children during filming. Besides, some actors have been changed. "Spring Festival" started as an actor, but later, because she was admitted to Chinese opera, she temporarily quit and changed to another one. Director Wang Fulin devoted his life to this TV series, from casting actors to costume props and music. Made hundreds of clothes. At that time, the actors all adopted militarized management, lived together, ate together, studied together, and even recited poems, painted and sang in their spare time, all in order to make themselves more immersive and bring themselves into this role. This elaborate production is not like today, and the casting is like a show. Later, through everyone's efforts, this film is still an insurmountable classic.

In terms of makeup, in order to reflect the rich life of the characters in the Grand View Garden, they all have tender skin. Ladies and gentlemen, of course, they should be white and flawless. In the makeup of the 1980 s, girls felt that the red on their mouths was beautiful, and the white on their faces was beautiful. Cosmetics are not like liquid foundation, concealer, blush, etc. But I don't think it affects aesthetics at all. The first time I watched this TV series, I felt that Jia Jia was really rich, Lin Daiyu was really beautiful, and Wang Xifeng was really spicy, and the classics could not be copied.

First of all, as a wealthy family, it is normal for ladies to paint red, which is also a status symbol. Especially high-consumption people like Xifeng and Daiyu. By comparison, we will find that even the powder of the maid and the young lady is different.

If you are careful, you will find that the girls in the Grand View Garden usually like to play rouge and pollen when they are free. Including Jia Baoyu, always likes to rub pollen rouge on girls. What men like must be what women are willing to pursue. A scholar dies as a bosom friend, and a woman is her lover. Makeup is beauty.

Secondly, this seemingly exaggerated powder makeup is probably the result of studying the original work and the daily makeup of women in various dynasties at that time. After all, at that time, women's makeup skills were limited, and cosmetics and liquid foundation were not as fine as they are now. It is precisely because of the lag of product efficacy and cosmetic technology that women can only cover up their defects through thick coating.

Tell me a little more. Xifeng seems to have the strongest makeup, which does not rule out the reason why she gave birth to Qiaojie. After a woman gives birth to a child, her face value and skin will be much worse than before. What's more, Jia Lian is a slut? It makes sense that Xifeng doesn't wear heavy makeup!

Finally, in the time span. Many people were in adolescence at that time, and boys and girls naturally had acne and freckles on their faces. Those cute and bubbling acne naturally have to be covered with makeup. At the same time, a TV series takes a long time to shoot and spans a long time. Women in the middle may have children, produce new decrees and change their body shape, so it is understandable that the makeup is thick and light!

More often, I still believe in the research and consideration of women's makeup habits by directors and producers in the past, which is why the 87 version of makeup came into being. Cosmetic surgery technology+product efficacy may all be influencing factors. If you use today's brand, you may not feel that way. But at the same time, it lost its truth. Just like Li's version of A Dream of Red Mansions, how many people think it is not as good as the 87 version!

By comparing the two versions of "Sister Feng", we can find that the makeup is very different.

Listen to ancient and modern myths and read Chinese and foreign literature.

It seems strange at first glance. Remember revisiting as a teenager. Because seeing you again after a long time, my discomfort with makeup is particularly profound. Later, when I learned that the version was like this, I was prepared and the habit became natural.

I think it is caused by the aesthetic age difference. Heavy makeup like that may have been popular in the 1980s. Now at that time, the so-called nude makeup has no concept, and the eyebrows of the people in the play are still shaved like that. Now, no one does that. After all, after more than 30 years, the trend has changed for generations, and it is normal for us to look wrong now. It is estimated that the makeup in the TV series we are watching now is the same.

And I think the most important thing is that no matter from the script, casting, acting, or service, the 87 Red Chamber is loyal to the original work, studying Redology and post-production, full of serious and dedicated attitude. When watching each frame, you can feel the sweat of all the cast members. They have achieved this classic version, which is beyond the reach of all subsequent remakes, which is enough. As for age, technology and financial constraints,

The 87th edition of Dream of Red Mansions is a classic in many people's minds. Of course, while watching TV series, some people think that the makeup of the actors in the 97 th edition is very heavy, and everyone has the phenomenon of floating powder.

In fact, this phenomenon is not surprising, because both the director and the makeup artist try their best to make the makeup in A Dream of Red Mansions closer to the real face of ancient women, which is also determined by the artistic image reproduction of the novel and the specific makeup technology at that time.

At that time, the makeup artist of the crew was trying to imitate the makeup of ancient women, which was a little antique, because ancient women didn't use liquid foundation for makeup, but usually applied lead powder directly. The ancient giants pursued the whitening feeling of "face as powder", not the nude makeup seen in modern lenses.

However, most of the lead powder used by ancient ladies is rough, so it is not acceptable to apply it on the face, and it is inevitable that it will float. The makeup artist in the 87 Red Mansion is presenting the makeup face of an ancient beauty, and the makeup is matched with clothes. At first glance, it looks like the ancients came out of the painting, so every character in the 87 version of A Dream of Red Mansions makes the audience feel closer to the real "ancients".

At that time, the makeup technology was not the same as today's makeup. Nowadays, all the actors apply concealer at the base and then fix makeup powder. It was 87 years ago, more than 30 years ago, and the shooting of a dream of red mansions was not as good as it is now.

At that time, the crew should have used loose powder with a very simple formula, and most of the makeup was fixed directly with a layer of cream, which was not as demanding as the current formula. The makeup is very light. After all, there were no filters and no tidying at that time. The face presented to the audience after shooting is very real, and it is inevitable that it is a bit dry, resulting in floating powder.

Although the makeup of the 87th edition of A Dream of Red Mansions is not as delicate as that of the actress in the current TV series, there is also a phenomenon of floating powder, but it does not prevent it from becoming a classic in everyone's mind.

I'm glad to answer this question.

The 87th edition of A Dream of Red Mansions is a classic in the history of a Dream of Red Mansions. Even if it was later remake, it never recovered its original charm.

Not only the actor's manners and lines can stand scrutiny, but also the simple makeup is as close to the original as possible. I watched the 87th edition of A Dream of Red Mansions over and over again. I think the makeup of the actors is not heavy, but I see a kind of exquisiteness.

0 1 A Dream of Red Mansions tells the story of the Qing Dynasty, and the makeup of the actors should conform to the makeup characteristics of the Qing Dynasty. The makeup culture of different dynasties has different emphases. In the Qing dynasty, women's makeup was dominated by Liu eyebrows with high eyebrows and low eyebrows. Pay attention to the cherry's small mouth, small and thin feeling. Try not to apply the upper lip, and only apply the inner lip to the lower lip. Looking closely at the 87th edition of A Dream of Red Mansions, the costumes of the main actors are basically drawn according to this main principle. Make some changes according to the different characteristics of the characters. Take Lin Daiyu as an example. When Daiyu first entered Jia's family, the original description of Daiyu's appearance was this: two bends seemed to be frowning, and a pair seemed to be happy but not happy. Then Daiyu's eyebrows should be thin and small, with drooping eyebrows, which shows Daiyu's weakness. With gray eye shadow, it shows the agility of Daiyu.

Combined with the photographic conditions at that time, the photographic conditions in the 1980s were limited. At that time, there was no advanced camera software such as filters and beautification, and the visual effect of TV series was completely compensated by makeup. If you don't draw cigarettes, you won't see them after shooting TV. Just like we usually watch stage plays, from a distance, we think the actors are all beautiful and have good faces, and from a close look, they are all made up.

The thick makeup of a dream of red mansions is the same. The part of a character without lines can only be conveyed to the audience with makeup.

The physical condition of the character should be reflected in the makeup. The makeup is different in different periods, not just powder. Take Wang Xifeng as an example. When Lin Daiyu first entered the Jia family, it was Xifeng's first appearance. She has a pair of phoenix eyes, two curved willow leaves hanging eyebrows, and suddenly Wang Xifeng's shrewdness came out.

When Jia Lian married Second Sister You, it was during the period of national filial piety, and Wang Xifeng's makeup was slightly mature.

After Xifeng went to prison, the whole person was gloomy.

Different times, different scenes, different makeup, not just powder.

The 87th edition of A Dream of Red Mansions, regardless of actors and actresses, is basically a makeup performance. Heavy make-up is true, but it can't be said that it's not good. It depends on the overall performance. If an actor wears the same makeup from beginning to end, the audience can't tell when to appear. Perhaps from the present aesthetic point of view, the beauty of the 1980s is out of date, but personally, from the point of view of fitting the original, the 87th edition of Dream of Red Mansions is perfect. Yang Shuyun, the makeup artist of the 87th edition of A Dream of Red Mansions, is imitating the ancient style, and Yang Shuyun is also directing the makeup of The Bride in the Wrong Car, so no one will say it is strange.

Is it a mutation in Yang Shuyun makeup artist? No, it's because he insists that the makeup of the characters must conform to the social background, living environment, popular makeup and popular cosmetics at that time.

Take A Dream of Red Mansions as an example. The beauty of the characters in the play will not look good on anyone's face now, but with the makeup, character movements and interior decoration in the play, it will not be abrupt.

Look at Pinger's makeup-

He smiled and asked him, this is not lead powder, but mirabilis jalapa seeds, ground into powder and mixed with spices.

Pinger looked down at the palm of her hand. It was fragrant, red and white, and all four were beautiful. It is also easy to apply evenly on the surface and moisturize the skin, unlike other powders.

Then I saw that rouge was not a piece, but a small white jade box, which contained a box like ointment. Baoyu said with a smile, the rouge sold in that market is not clean and the color is thin. This is the best rouge, squeezed juice, deslagging and steamed with flower dew. Just pick a small hairpin and put it on the palm of your hand, dip it in some water and wipe it on your lips. It is enough to slap your cheek in your hand.

Pinger decorated it according to the words, and the fruit was abnormal, sweet and fragrant.

As the leader of Wang Xifeng, Pinger naturally needs good cosmetics on the market. However, when she saw Baoyu's self-made mirabilis jalapa pollen in Ehong Garden, she still lamented that "it is light fragrance, white and red, and it is easy to apply evenly on the face, and it can moisturize the skin, unlike other powders."

It shows that all lead powder on the market is "green and heavy" and it is not easy to push it away in today's words.

Therefore, in the context of the story of A Dream of Red Mansions, the makeup techniques at that time naturally came from. The face was very white and the lips were very red, which was "abnormal".

The crew of the 87th edition of A Dream of Red Mansions not only reproduced the characters in each play, but also restored the makeup, hairstyle and clothes at that time.

I don't think we should think about heavy makeup, but we should understand the social development and life at that time through heavy makeup.

If the makeup in China's history is similar in the past 100 years, how can it have a sense of history?