Zheng Yuanjie?

Reporter: Your characters Pipiru, Lu Xixi, Luo Ke, Shuke and Beta have influenced at least two generations. The monthly "Fairy Tale King" supported entirely by your works has been in existence for 20 years. , the monthly circulation has exceeded one million copies, and the total number of copies of your books and periodicals printed has exceeded 50 million. These data show that you have achieved certain achievements. Everyone is more interested in the real you. I have read many reporters' interviews with you, and I can feel that sometimes you say things that are against your will.

Zheng Yuanjie: I will give you the real me today.

Reporter: There is an old saying in China that you are older when you are three years old, and you are older when you are seven years old. What were you like as a child?

Zheng Yuanjie: When I was a child, I had no ambitions. My biggest dream was to be a manure collector. At that time, the media promoted a model worker named Shi Chuanxiang, whose occupation was a manure digger. I was a fan of his at the time. When I was in the second grade of elementary school, the teacher gave me a composition titled "What will I do when I grow up?", so I wrote that I would be a manure collector when I grow up. Most of the classmates in the class wrote about becoming scientists when they grow up. Unexpectedly, the teacher recommended my essay to be published in the school magazine. I guess I was the only student in the city who wanted to be a excrement collector when he grew up. My teacher was worried that in a few years there would be no excrement collectors in Beijing and excrement would be everywhere, so he quickly signed a contract with me by publishing an essay and keeping a record of it.

Reporter: Judging from your resume, you went to school very little.

Zheng Yuanjie: When I was in the fourth grade of elementary school, my studies were suspended due to the Cultural Revolution. Later, he was sent to the Wuqi Cadre School in Suiping County, Henan Province with his parents. He attended the cadre school's children's school, but was expelled.

Reporter: Why?

Zheng Yuanjie: The teacher gave me an essay titled "The early bird gets eaten by the worm". I changed the title and wrote "The early bird gets eaten by the worm". The teacher refused and humiliated me, so I exploded. He found the cracker hidden on his body. Cracker is a kind of firecracker, I wonder if it is a specialty of Suiping County. There are two ropes on both sides of the firecracker. Grab the rope with both hands and pull it to both sides, and the firecracker will go off. I think this was the second suicide bombing in human history.

Reporter: Whose first time?

Zheng Yuanjie: Dong Cunrui.

Reporter: You were fired for this?

Zheng Yuanjie: Yes.

Reporter: You never went to school again?

Zheng Yuanjie: I went to a driving school. Is a driving school considered a school?

Reporter: Well, I guess. That is to say, the highest school you attended was a driving school?

Zheng Yuanjie: Yes. My highest diploma is a car driving license.

Reporter: After all, the Chinese characters you learned in four years of primary school are limited, and you have now written more than 10 million words of work. What books did you rely on to learn to read?

Zheng Yuanjie: After I was expelled from school, my dad taught me at home. He asked me to recite the "Communist Manifesto". I learned more words from this book.

Reporter: You were a soldier and became a worker after being discharged from service. How did you come up with the idea of ??writing?

Zheng Yuanjie: My girlfriend’s parents asked me to take the college entrance examination. I knew that exams were my weakness, and I was humiliating myself by taking the college entrance examination. So my girlfriend abandoned me under pressure from her parents. I originally thought I could use masturbation as a substitute for getting a wife, but later I found that I didn't really like this method. I remembered that when I was in primary school, I wrote an essay about removing feces and was encouraged by my teacher, so I thought about writing in order to get the opposite sex to commit to me as my wife. My original intention in writing was actually to work on my genitals.

Reporter: Why did you choose to write fairy tales?

Zheng Yuanjie: I am a coward. I dare not devote myself to changing the world like Liu Hulan, so I escape reality by writing fairy tales.

Reporter: Why did you establish the monthly magazine "The King of Fairy Tales"?

Zheng Yuanjie: I am extremely narrow-minded. I am so narrow-minded that I cannot tolerate sharing the same bed with other writers in newspapers and periodicals.

Reporter: You have been writing the monthly "Fairy Tale King" for 20 years by yourself, which is incredible.

Zheng Yuanjie: This is a sign of laziness. I have been writing a monthly magazine for 20 years without changing my direction. I am hopelessly lazy.

Reporter: Since 2002, I have rarely seen your new works, but you have been writing and have accumulated a lot of unpublished works. why is that?

Zheng Yuanjie: Around 2001, a legal program on a Dawan TV station said that some words in my works were suspected of being inappropriate for children. I am a very timid person, and I was so frightened that I became impotent. As I said just now, the main purpose of publishing my works is that I don’t like masturbation and prefer a married life. Now that I am impotent, I have no motivation to publish any more works.

Reporter: You didn’t receive treatment?

Zheng Yuanjie: I think it’s a blessing in disguise. This can fundamentally prevent words that are not suitable for children from appearing in my works again. That part itself is an organ that is not suitable for children. Anyone who makes a living by writing for children should possess the basic qualities of impotence. This trick worked very well, and from then on, the human body parts below the nose have never appeared in my works.

Reporter: Why can’t the hand appear? Why can't the mouth appear?

Zheng Yuanjie: In a broad sense, the organs you mentioned are all organs that are not suitable for children and can be used to do bad things.

Reporter: I saw in the media that someone is said to be the first person in China to publicly admit that he is AIDS. Are you the first person in China to publicly admit that he is impotent?

Zheng Yuanjie: I think this is an honor, much more glorious than the title of writer.

Reporter: There is a saying that writers are engineers of the human soul.

Zheng Yuanjie: The engineer of the human soul is God. Among human beings, those who most urgently need to reshape their souls are the writers.

Reporter: You don’t seem to have much contact with writers, and you never attend writers’ congresses.

Zheng Yuanjie: I have low self-esteem. Since I knew nothing about literature, I often couldn't understand what they said when I was with them, and I was worried about being embarrassed and making a fool of myself.

Reporter: What do you think of the literary award?

Zheng Yuanjie: Literary awards are like hemorrhoids, sooner or later every anus will get them. Special statement: this is not my original statement.

Reporter: Have you ever won a literary award?

Zheng Yuanjie: I have hemorrhoids, which are not serious. In severe cases, you may bleed, so you should wear a sanitary napkin with wings.

Reporter: Can you define a professional writer?

Zheng Yuanjie: Anyone who receives a salary is not a professional writer in the true sense. Authentic professional writers live entirely on royalties.

Reporter: Do you get paid?

Zheng Yuanjie: I got it before, but now no one pays me a salary.

Reporter: Why? Resigned?

Zheng Yuanjie: It sounds like a resignation, but in fact it is a dismissal. Got fired.

Reporter: What job were you fired from?

Zheng Yuanjie: A children's literature journal from a city's Federation of Literary and Art Circles.

Reporter: This is a bit difficult for me to understand. If you are a manure digger and are fired by your boss, I understand. I don’t think you’ll be able to spend your whole life digging shit with peace of mind. And you should have certain abilities in editing publications. The publications you founded include "Fairy Tale King" monthly and "Big Bad Wolf Pictorial" monthly. They have gone through a glorious road for nearly 20 years, and Still walking. They have created impressive economic and social benefits, and have been named double-effect journals by the Press and Publication Administration. Among them, the monthly "Fairy Tale King" is still completely supported by your work. As far as I know, newspapers and periodical offices currently implement an appointment system. Should leaders hire people with outstanding abilities?

Zheng Yuanjie: In the late 1990s, the leaders of the Municipal Federation of Literary and Art Circles told me why your elbows, Zheng Yuanjie, were always turned outwards. Both "The Fairy Tale King" and "Big Bad Wolf Pictorial" gave it to me. Others, the fat water flows into other people's fields. Can you make some contribution to the Federation of Literary and Art Circles? I said that in 1984, when I had the idea of ??writing a separate publication, I first told the head of our magazine, but he politely declined. The boss said, how can our magazine only publish your works? Other writers will have opinions. Besides, even if I agree, how many issues can you hold on to?

Reporter: If I were your leader, I wouldn't be so polite. I would say you should see a psychiatrist.

Zheng Yuanjie: The leader of the Federation of Literary and Art Circles said, can you make a contribution now? As a soldier, I knew that military orders were overwhelming, so I made a plan to double the circulation of the magazine and submit a certain amount of money to the Federation of Literary and Art Circles every year, and reported it to the leaders of the Federation of Literary and Art Circles.

Reporter: What position did you hold in that magazine at that time?

Zheng Yuanjie: General editor.

Reporter: How is your relationship with the editorial director?

Zheng Yuanjie: The relationship is very good. He employed me for many years. Stay safe and sound. But when I wanted to stop the flow of fertilizer, he suddenly announced that I would be fired.

Reporter: I can understand him.

Zheng Yuanjie: I can understand him too. Now I still think he is a good guy and if I were him I would fire me too. At that time, the leaders of the Federation of Literary and Art Circles were in a difficult situation, and they did not expect such a situation to arise. Just come forward to mediate. The condition proposed by the editorial director was that Zheng Yuanjie could continue to be employed, but he could not come to work. I said, if you can’t come to work, why are you still employed? The two sides could not reach an agreement. Later, my boss gave me an idea, saying that there are regulations that you can retire early after 30 years of service. Your service life is almost 30 years, so you should retire before the deadline. I said that I was only in my 40s, so I would lose a lot of time if I retired. I'll resign now. So, when I was one month away from reaching 30 years of service, I went through the resignation procedures, took the files to the street, and got the long-awaited "Job Job Permit for Unemployed Persons in Urban Areas in Beijing".

Reporter: Why have you longed for it? Zheng Yuanjie: Many years ago, Wang Shuo once took out a certificate book and showed it to me. He said it was the most awesome certificate. When I saw it, it was the "Job Employment Certificate for Unemployed Persons in Urban Areas of Beijing", and I was jealous at that time. I think this is a must-have certificate for a writer.

Reporter: This means that you have worked in vain for 30 years and you will not get a penny of pension.

Zheng Yuanjie: I have been bad at math since I was a child, and I often make miscalculations.

Reporter: Nowadays, some people are worried about the phenomenon of young writers. You have been in contact with Han Han. What do you think of young writers?

Zheng Yuanjie: If a child imitates a bad person and an adult doesn't do it, if a child imitates a good person and the adult doesn't do it, he or she will become a vegetative state. Whenever I see children described as flowers of the motherland, I think, human flowers are just vegetative.

Reporter: What should adults do for children?

Zheng Yuanjie: Praise, encourage, praise to death.

Reporter: There is an old saying that good advice is hard on the ears.

Zheng Yuanjie: True advice is easy to hear. Encouragement is top advice. Encouragement turns idiots into geniuses.

Reporter: Why don’t you let your son go to school? Instead, you compile your own textbooks and teach him at home?

Zheng Yuanjie: Cheap. At that time, the school charged arbitrary fees.

Reporter: Can you reveal the content of the family teaching materials you compiled for your son?

Zheng Yuanjie: The legal chapter "Pipilu and the 419 Sins", the innovation and skepticism chapter "The Down-to-earth and Arrogant Beta", the philosophical chapter "Dialogue between Lu Xixi and Socrates", and the sexual knowledge chapter "You Where did it come from, my friend", the moral chapter "Why is Rock not a wolf-hearted man", the safety and self-rescue chapter "I will give you another 100 lives", the history, geography and art chapter "The Wooden Door of Dark Room 309", the financial chapter "The Midas Touch" , the writing chapter "Shuke gives you a magic pen" and the mathematics and physics chapter "Pentagonal Flying Saucer tosses the World of Mathematics, Physics and Chemistry".

Reporter: So many, how many words are there?

Zheng Yuanjie: About 4 million words.

Reporter: Not published?

Zheng Yuanjie: I am a petty person. Worry about taking it out, other people's children watching it, and competing with my son. From a diploma perspective, my son is a disadvantaged group.

Reporter: Never take it out?

Zheng Yuanjie: Now that my son is older, the textbook no longer poses a threat to Quanzi. It has been serialized since the July 2004 issue of "The Fairy Tale King".

Reporter: I heard that you read through the textbooks compiled by the education department twice before writing them. Do you have a comparison between the textbooks you wrote and those compiled by the education department?

Zheng Yuanjie: Compared with the textbooks compiled by the education department, what I wrote is rubbish.

Reporter: Then why do you want your daughter to go to school?

Zheng Yuanjie: I heard that the school has implemented a one-fee system. In addition, according to my observation, my daughter is obsessed with exam-oriented education, and most of the games she plays now are themed around school and exams. I will support and encourage her to get her Ph.D. diploma. I am a very incompetent father who actually wants to take advantage of my daughter. I plan to write a diary-style literary work using her school experience as material every day from the time she is in elementary school until she graduates from 2005. Starting from September 1, it will be written until 2025 to comprehensively record and analyze the strengths of school education in our country.

Reporter: Why are you dissatisfied with piracy and infringement?

Zheng Yuanjie: I am stingy by nature and never pluck a dime.

Reporter: You seem to be mocking academic qualifications.

Zheng Yuanjie: The fox cannot eat the grapes and says the grapes are sour.

Reporter: What kind of path do you like to take?

Zheng Yuanjie: Single-plank bridge.

Reporter: I heard that you write every morning?

Zheng Yuanjie: It’s not writing, it’s drug addiction. Writing is not a survival need for me now, but a physiological need. I have no interest in literature itself. Writing is the best way I have found so far to escape reality. Every morning, I use words to create mirages to enchant myself.

Reporter: In what year did your son Zheng Yaqi start surfing the Internet?

Zheng Yuanjie: 1994.

Reporter: What about you?

Zheng Yuanjie: 2004. In the past 10 years, my son has encouraged me to go online many times, but I have always refused. I reluctantly agreed this year and I like it so far. I most like surfing the Internet in a high-speed car, it feels like surfing.

Reporter: Do you think your son’s education is successful?

Zheng Yuanjie: Unsuccessful.

Reporter: Why?

Zheng Yuanjie: We have great differences, and we often argue until our faces turn red.

Reporter: What are the differences? Zheng Yuanjie: My son likes sound, light, and electronics. He thinks now is the age of picture reading. He mobilized me to publish cartoon books many years ago, and I believe that written works can stimulate readers' imagination, while comic strips can be seen at a glance and leave no room for imagination. I think that the age of reading pictures is actually the age of gamblers, betting on the future with their own imagination. He disagreed with my view. He wanted to adapt my works into comic strips, cartoons, film and television dramas and even computer games, but I rejected them all. I just stick to the words and remain stubborn. But now he is beginning to gain the upper hand. In January 2005, a comic book he founded called "Pipiru" will be released. In March 2000, he created my official website Zhengshi.com for me. At that time, I strongly opposed it and there were huge differences.

Reporter: How do you view the relationship or generation gap between the two generations?

Zheng Yuanjie: Worrying about future generations is the preserve of the previous generation. It is the patent of the next generation to be better than master. Everyone will go through these two stages in their lives. After being born to parents, they are better than the previous generation, and after becoming parents, they are worried about the next generation. It's even, no one owes anyone anything. From this perspective, there is no generation gap at all. How can a person have a generation gap between himself and himself? Besides, without children, where would the parents be?

Reporter: Are you saying the opposite? It should be a child without parents.

Zheng Yuanjie: Can a person without children be called a parent? Take me for example, before my son was born, I was not a father. My fatherhood was born at the same time as my son. Strictly speaking, my father is the same age as my son. It is my son who made me the father I am. As a father, I have to remember the man who dug the well, and I cannot burn the bridge by crossing the river. Whenever I have a disagreement with Zheng Yaqi, I advise myself like this.

Reporter: How old is Zheng Yaqi now? Have a job?

Zheng Yuanjie: 21 years old. Director of the technical department of a newspaper in Beijing.

Reporter: You seem to have become interested in young children's literature recently and published a book called "Little Rabbit Running and Jumping".

Zheng Yuanjie: My daughter is 5 years old this year. Since she was 1 year old, I have told her a story every night before going to bed. This has been a system ever since. She will not sleep without telling a story, and I will tell her an hour every day. First, I read my story according to the script. When I was 3 years old, I finished reading it once. My daughter didn’t know the story, so I had to make it up on the spot. I asked her to come up with a topic, and I would make up the topic based on the topic. After two months of organizing the lecture like this, one day I suddenly realized that I should record it, so I started recording while speaking, using a tape every day. There are nearly 700 tapes so far. "Little Rabbit Running and Jumping" is the first story I recorded after making up a story for my daughter. It is the earliest 5 of the 700 tapes. So far, there are more than 130 fairy tales such as "The Little Rabbit Runs and Jumps" on the tape.

Reporter: I heard that you are a filial son.

Zheng Yuanjie: That was me performing it for my children, with ulterior motives.

Reporter: I saw a photo of you and your German Shepherd in the study. Why do you like dogs?

Zheng Yuanjie: Many dogs are actually people. Many people are actually dogs. The relationship between humans and dogs is that I am in you and you are in me. Humans and dogs must have the same ancestors.

Reporter: Why don’t you smoke or drink?

Zheng Yuanjie: Smoking and alcohol affect sexual desire. It doesn't matter now. I still don’t know how to smoke, but I can drink a little wine.

Reporter: You have never visited prostitution, why?

Zheng Yuanjie: I can’t do it to readers.

Reporter: Why don’t you like traveling?

Zheng Yuanjie: Save money.

Reporter: You don’t have to spend your own money to travel now, right? Which city's Xinhua Bookstore doesn't want you to sign and sell books?

Zheng Yuanjie: I didn’t say save your own money.

Reporter: Money, fame and fortune are external things.

Zheng Yuanjie: What are the things inside the body?

Reporter: Well, it seems there really isn’t.

Zheng Yuanjie: Since there are no things inside the body, how can there be things outside the body? Anyone who likes to talk about external things is the one who cares most. People who don't care don't need to find reasons for doing things.

Reporter: Some people say that without the Pipilu, Lu Xixi, Shuke and Beta you created, Chinese children would be embarrassed or lose face. They could only compete with foreign fairy tale characters such as Atong. It's not like making friends with Harry Potter.

Zheng Yuanjie: How can it be shameful to make friends with foreigners? Marx is a foreigner. I seem to have never seen Chinese people worry about Marx being a foreigner. Why should they worry about Astro Boy or something like that? Besides, the economy has become globalized, and culture should be globalized even more. Who is good and who to make friends with. Confucius foresaw thousands of years ago that his descendants would make friends with foreign fairy tale characters. He stood on the mountain and shouted into the wind that he was very happy to have friends from far away.

Reporter: Speaking of foreigners, if you were the president of the United States, how could you get into trouble with Bin Laden?

Zheng Yuanjie: Award the Nobel Peace Prize to him. He would be too embarrassed to commit any more terrorist attacks.

Reporter: What is your favorite book?

Zheng Yuanjie: "Modern Chinese Dictionary".

Reporter: What kind of text do you like to read now?

Zheng Yuanjie: I like to read small advertisements. There is the whole world on them. Every day I would open the door of my house and look with great anticipation to see if there were any small advertisements. If not, I'll be very disappointed. When driving on the road, I encounter someone who puts a small advertisement on the car's reflector. If someone ignores me, I will drive up to him and argue with him why he didn't give it to me. I bound the small advertisements into a book and read them over and over again. In the past two days, I received a small advertisement from a regular hospital nearby. It was an advertisement for the treatment of ADHD in children. It listed 9 outstanding characteristics of ADHD in children, and said that as long as 3 of them are present, the child must be treated. ADHD: 1. Inattention, easy to wander; 2. Too much activity, easy to tease others; 3. Playing while doing homework; 4. Cannot do things for a long time, often moving from one thing to another. ; 5. Normal intelligence, but poor test scores; 6. Talks a lot, often interrupting others or rushing to answer; 7. Failing to listen when others speak to him; 8. Impulsive, willful, impatient, and prone to losing his temper; 9. Do not listen to advice or restraint. Is this a disease? In my opinion, as long as you meet 3 of these items, you are a genius. As a parent, you have obviously given birth to a genius, but you want to kill him through drugs. This is one of the reasons why China has no authentic Nobel Prize winners. Isn’t such a small advertisement better than a world famous book?

Reporter: What is your biggest wish now?

Zheng Yuanjie: Give birth to a child when you are sixty.

Reporter: Aren’t you already impotent? How to still give birth?

Zheng Yuanjie: Still not recovered at the age of sixty? Besides, I had already prepared storage of relevant substances in 2000 to nip it in the bud. I hope it won't expire by then.

Reporter: In addition to your family, who else are you in contact with now?

Zheng Yuanjie: I have a group of friends and I play with them on my official website every day. happy.

Reporter: The monthly magazine "The King of Fairy Tales" is about to celebrate its 20th birthday, and I saw that you are soliciting celebration ideas on your website. In your opinion, when celebrating the 20th anniversary of the publication of "The Fairy Tale King", what is the most meaningful way to celebrate, the best way to prove that this moment is the pinnacle, and the best way to leave a deep impression on your millions of readers?

Zheng Yuanjie: I committed suicide.

Reporter: Will you choose this way to celebrate the 20th anniversary of "The Fairy Tale King"?

Zheng Yuanjie: I have submitted an application to my daughter, but she has not issued me a visa yet. I was under her jurisdiction until she turned 18.

Reporter: If you were asked to write an epitaph for yourself, how would you write it?

Zheng Yuanjie: an illiterate man who wrote a lot was buried here.

Reporter: Last question, do you have any advantages?

Zheng Yuanjie: Useless.

Reporter: No?

Zheng Yuanjie: There is nothing in the first place, so where is the dust?