What if Nanjing has always been the capital of the Ming Dynasty?

If the Ming emperor Judy had not moved to Beijing, the politics, economy, military and national defense of the Ming dynasty might have undergone major changes. On the contrary, the change of the civil fort and the defense of the capital may not necessarily occur in the history of the Ming Dynasty, but it is likely that the Ming Dynasty will not last for more than 200 years, and it is more likely to become the Nanming regime that is partial to the south of the Yangtze River. Jiangnan, where money is wasted, makes Ming Chengzu afraid that the emperor will defend his country and the king will die, and he will never be bloody. Even if Jiangnan is rich and economically developed, under the policy of controlling martial arts with literature, perhaps the Ming Dynasty is just repeating the sad songs of the Southern Song Dynasty. According to the quality of Nanming monarch and minister in history, it may not be as tragic as the Battle of Cliff Mountain in the Southern Song Dynasty. As an extremely clever tiger, Zhu Yuanzhang, a tiger with a right hand, didn't want to make Nanjing his capital after the establishment of the Ming Dynasty, so he sent Prince Zhu Biao to inspect Chang 'an, Luoyang and other alternative places to move the capital. At first Nanjing was temporarily built for the following reasons: 1. Like Chang 'an, the capital of other dynasties, Huaixi Military Group, as the rising south of the Yangtze River, naturally established its capital within its own territory when it was not unified. After a long period of development, Jiangnan has been very prosperous, and with the convenience of land and water, Nanjing, the ancient capital of several dynasties, naturally comes into view. 3. The so-called "the imperial capital of Jinling, a good place in the south of the Yangtze River", Nanjing, which occupies a prominent position among the three Long Mai cities in China, naturally has the air of an emperor in feudal society. After the Ming Emperor Judy succeeded to the throne, for some unknown reason, she finally decided to move to Beijing. If Daming never moved the capital, let's speculate on the great changes brought to the Ming Dynasty:

On the economic level: if the capital is not moved to Beijing, the recovery and development of the northern economy will be slower, and the Ming Dynasty may pay more attention to the south; The capital is Nanjing, and the policy of banning the sea may be stricter for the sake of preventing Japanese pirates. The policy of banning the sea in the early Ming Dynasty was to maintain the stability of the rule, and in the middle and late period it was mainly to prevent the Japanese pirates. Nanjing is close to the sea and is more sensitive to threats from the sea, so if the Ming Dynasty had not moved its capital, it might have implemented the policy of banning the sea more thoroughly and strictly.

Military defense level: when the capital is not in Beijing, there will be no intuitive feeling of pain in the face of the threat from the north. Once Jiubian Town, which was built without heavy money, was breached by the Great Wall, the northern part of Mapingchuan could not stop the attack threatened by the north. Mingfen was deeply impressed by the integrity of the Ming emperors: the emperor protected the country and the king died. If you don't move the capital to Beijing, how can the emperor defend his country? How does Nanjing defend the northern territory thousands of miles away? Because they were far away from the northern border, the decision-makers of the Ming Dynasty had no intuitive pain in the threat of Mongolia. Therefore, it is still unknown whether the policy of building Jiubian Town to defend Mongolia can be introduced, so the reduction of investment in the north will definitely affect the national defense in the north. Without Jiubian Town, it would be easier for Mongolia to break through the Great Wall. Once the Great Wall was broken, how did the Ming army stop Mongolian fighters from riding in North China of Ma Pingchuan? Once Mongolia's ministries crossed the Great Wall, the Liaoxi Corridor connecting Nurgandos in Northeast China and North China was easily cut off. Perhaps the Mongolian ministries that have not suffered a major blow will gradually encroach on the north, and it is unknown that Daming may form a river separation with Mongolia after losing Northeast China and North China.

On the political level: graceful and restrained Jiangnan is easy to make people lose their fighting spirit, and the policy of using literature to control martial arts makes Daming even weaker; Even if the economy is developed, ocean-going trade brings rich benefits, but it is just a repeat of the sad song of the Southern Song Dynasty. The blade is sharpened, and the plum blossom is fragrant and bitter. The dynasty will be more tenacious only when it encounters certain sufferings at all times. Daming, which has always made Nanjing its capital, can easily make the graceful Jiangnan disintegrate its fighting spirit; Form a situation that "warm wind makes tourists drunk and only makes Hangzhou Bianzhou". At that time, although there will be no change in the defense between the civil servant fort and Beijing, the convergence of national defense policies will inevitably lead to the growth of civil servants. The situation that civil servants dominate the military with literature will inevitably appear, and the contempt chain of "Donghuamen calls me a hero" will reappear. Even if the Amin dynasty developed economically, what would happen even if it gave birth to strong maritime trade? Rich countries without strong military and national defense protection can only be coveted by others. Like the Southern Song Dynasty, wealth was eventually annexed, but I wonder if the integrity of the Ming monarch and his subjects will be as tragic as the Yashan naval battle in the Southern Song Dynasty. Without the tradition that the emperor protected the country and the king died, it is hard to say whether the last monarch and minister of the Ming Dynasty who insisted on not moving the capital had the same integrity as Emperor Chongzhen who committed suicide.

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Hello, I'm Silver, who is talking about history. I'm glad to answer your question. If the capital of Ming Dynasty was in Nanjing, the change of civil engineering might be advanced, and Mongolia and Ming Dynasty would be divided into north and south. I think there are several such factors. Like the Southern Song Dynasty, the Ming Dynasty is likely to perish after 100 years.

First, the separatist regimes that established their capitals in the south in the past dynasties have no history of more than 200 years.

1: After the demise of the Western Jin Dynasty, Si Marui, the king of Langya, went south to Du Dong to establish the Eastern Jin regime.

In the history of China, the three dynasties of confrontation between the north and the south were the Eastern Jin Dynasty and the Southern Song Dynasty, while the Southern Ming Dynasty had a low sense of existence because of its short existence. We all know that the Eight Kings Rebellion in the Western Jin Dynasty eventually led to the Five Rebellions. This result had a very bad influence on the Jin Dynasty, not only the territory gradually declined, but also the national strength turned from prosperity to decline. Behind the Eight Kings Rebellion was Yongjia Rebellion, and the relationship between Sima Chi and Sima Yue was not good. Liu Cong attacked Luoyang and Chang 'an successively, and the Western Jin Dynasty ended. Si Marui, the king of Langya, took the opportunity to go south to establish the Eastern Jin regime, but at this time the emperor had no real power and most of them became puppets of aristocratic families. There were five northern expeditions in the Eastern Jin Dynasty, all of which ended in failure.

2. After the demise of the Northern Song Dynasty, Kang Wang went south to establish the Southern Song regime.

The Northern Song Dynasty lasted from 960 AD to 1 127 years. Song Huizong and his son are incompetent because of their profligacy. In the strategic aspect of Jin and Liao countries, it is even more wrong. Finally, in 1 127, the famous Jingkang Rebellion broke out, and the emperor Qin Hui was captured to the north, and all the royal families in the Northern Song Dynasty were wiped out except Zhao Gou, Kang Wang. Zhao did not have the strength to preside over the Northern Expedition when he established the Southern Song regime, but the new successor had the desire to revive the Song Dynasty. However, Longxing Northern Expedition ended in failure under various constraints. The Southern Song Dynasty only lasted for more than a hundred years.

After the demise of Ming Dynasty, several Nanming regimes were established in the south.

As we all know, 1644 After the demise of the Ming Dynasty, the territory of the north was basically lost, either the territory of the peasant army or the territory of the Qing army. However, at this time, most of the southern territory was still in the hands of the Ming Dynasty, so the Hong Guang regime, the Longwu regime and the Li Yong regime which ascended the throne in Ning, Min and Kun were established successively. It's a pity that Nanming only existed for about 20 years, which makes people feel sorry. The reason is very complicated. In the eyes of many people, the Northern Expedition is still quite difficult.

Second, Zhu Yuanzhang, the Ming emperor, tried to move the capital, but failed. Later, Judy, the first emperor of the Ming Dynasty, moved to Beijing 1. In fact, Zhu Yuanzhang was not satisfied with the system of one capital and three capitals, and once wanted to build the capital in Chang 'an.

We now know that the system implemented by Zhu Yuanzhang is called "one capital and three capitals". Take the capital of song dynasty as Beijing, Fengyang as the capital and Nanjing as the sky. However, we know that he is not satisfied with the result. First of all, because of years of war, the wall of the capital of song dynasty has long been dilapidated, and it is even more difficult to repair it. In the twenty-fourth year of Hongwu, he sent his eldest son Zhu Biao to visit An, knowing that this was the old capital of Han and Tang Dynasties. When the prince came back, he presented a map of Xi. It wasn't long before I got seriously ill and died the next year. This is a great blow to Zhu Yuanzhang. I wonder if God won't let him move the capital, but let his descendants finish it.

Judy moved to Beijing for a deeper purpose.

As we all know, Judy, the emperor of the Ming Dynasty, was just a small vassal. After Zhu Yuanzhang's death, Zhu Yunwen began to separate the princes, and the battle of Jingnan broke out. Four years later, he became emperor. His fief has always been Beiping, which is now Beijing. Some people say that he moved the capital to Beijing because Beijing is his hometown. Nanjing is full of yin, which has killed too many people. Others say that the son of heaven protects the country, but it is not. Judy moved to Beijing for many reasons. The most important point is that, in Judy's view, both the Central Plains and grasslands were the territory of the Ming Dynasty. Because of Beijing's special geographical position, it can control most of the vast areas in the southern Central Plains, and it can also attack the remnants of Mobei and safeguard the peace of the people in the northern border areas.

Third: If the capital had been in Nanjing, the uprising would have been staged in advance. As we all know, 1449, the famous civil war broke out in history. In this war, 200,000 troops of the Ming Dynasty were wiped out, and even the emperor himself was captured by Vala. I have been in Nanjing and have no energy to deal with Vala in the north. There is no doubt that the final result is that most of the northern territory is controlled by Vara Tatar, and the northern expedition is more difficult. Historical figures like Zhu Yuanzhang only appear once in thousands of years. Without his ability and strategy, it can only be the same result as the Southern Song Dynasty. When the uprising army, Manchuria Jurchen, Mongolia and other three parties rose, the Ming Dynasty would naturally not be much better.

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What if Nanjing has always been the capital of the Ming Dynasty?

Historically, in the 18th year of Yongle, Ming Taizu Judy moved to the capital and established another administrative system in Nanjing. Assuming that the relocation of the capital did not happen, Nanjing has always been the capital of the Ming Dynasty. I think there may be two positive results.

Positive results: always taking Nanjing as the capital is conducive to promoting the transformation of small-scale peasant economy to capital economy in Ming Dynasty and promoting the development of navigation industry in Ming Dynasty. Jiangnan area is an important source of wealth in Ming Dynasty. /kloc-in the middle of the 0/5th century, there were already handicraft workshops with the nature of capital economy. If Nanjing has always been the capital, a lot of resources will tilt to the south of the Yangtze River, which will inevitably give birth to more bourgeoisie and promote the transformation of small-scale peasant economy into capital economy.

At the same time, the rulers of the Ming dynasty living in the coastal areas will obviously feel the great benefits brought by maritime trade to the Ming dynasty. The voyage of the Ming Dynasty will not end with Zheng He's voyage to the West. At that time, the voyage scope of the Ming Dynasty fleet with the highest manufacturing technology and fleet size will certainly expand. The fleet will meet the European fleet in the Indian Ocean in a few decades.

New ideas, new technologies, new science, new art, and all the treasures of the era of great navigation will flood into Daming through ocean routes. The Ming dynasty, which is decades ahead of the west, will replace the western fleet in the original history and become the main participant in the great geographical discovery.

The Ming Dynasty will keep ahead of the times and lead the progress of the times.

Negative results: Nanjing will always be its capital, and the northern region will become a huge hidden danger in the Ming Dynasty. Successive dynasties failed to deal with the military and political problems in the northern border. The Tang Dynasty adopted the policy of defending the central government, which eventually led to An Lushan's control of the Three Seals of our time, which led to the Anshi Rebellion. When the Song Dynasty paid more attention to literature than martial arts, and the army improved slightly, it ushered in a suppression by "xianggong". Not only can Yanyun not be recovered, but it is also occupied by foreign countries, and its territory shrinks southward and then shrinks.

Therefore, if Nanjing is the capital of the Ming Dynasty, we should carefully consider the border defense in the north. If too few frontier forces are invested, the hidden dangers of foreign aggression will increase; If too many border guards are given, it will increase the possibility of separatist buffer zones. After all, Judy is already there, and the descendants of the Zhujiajian royal family may not be afraid to take it as an "example" and try again from north to south.

No matter whether the danger comes from foreign countries or buffer regions, it will eventually affect the political stability of the Ming Dynasty and the economic development of the south of the Yangtze River. Once the northern region broke away from the Ming Dynasty, it would directly threaten the imperial rule.

Therefore, with Nanjing as its capital, the Ming Dynasty is likely to face the problem of north-south division, even before the beginning of political change in history.

Summary: If Nanjing has always been the capital of the Ming Dynasty, the good result will be to promote the development of the capital economy and maritime trade, and China will become a real world center. The disadvantage may be that the checks and balances between foreigners and buffer regions are too difficult, which will threaten the national stability of the Ming Dynasty. The above is my answer to "What would happen if the capital of the Ming Dynasty was always Nanjing?" The answer to this question, I hope it helps.

There are good and bad, it is difficult to predict.

First of all, the banks of the Beijing-Hangzhou Grand Canal will not be so prosperous, and the economic development in the northern region may be seriously lagging behind.

With Nanjing as its capital, the political center of the Ming Empire will always be in the south, at least in the south of the Yellow River. This is of great benefit to the control of the southwest, but it lacks the overall control of the north.

Considering that in order to harm the Mongols in northern Xinjiang for 200 years, the Ming Dynasty will consume huge resources on the long northern frontier to maintain control over the northern region. If so, it is likely to be at a disadvantage in the long-term confrontation, or there will be a phenomenon of warlord separatism.

On the other hand, because the political center of the empire is located in the most prosperous area, the blessing of economic advantages is likely to bring a different future to the empire.

Nanjing is really not suitable as the capital of an ancient unified empire. Her geographical location is too close to the south, so it is difficult to take into account the long northern border. Whether it is the time of military preparation or the cost of military material reserve, it will bring more trouble to the already poor and weak empire (the middle period of the empire)! Unless the empire acquiesced in the existence of Beiping City as a military and political capital, Beiping City, as a military hub in the north, coordinated the overall military work in the whole north.

Economically, due to its proximity to the south of the Yangtze River, the empire is likely to be more and more surrounded by commercialization. Because they are in the political center of the empire, businessmen in the south of the Yangtze River are expected to have greater voice to decide the development direction of capital, which may also affect the political direction.

In any case, it is impossible to change the civil fort. The military initiative of the Ming Empire is likely to come in a few decades.

But around 1500, the Ming dynasty will still be in a state of overall defense militarily. This is predicted on the premise that the imperial military system is corrupt and the economic system is backward.

Perhaps imperial bureaucrats will think of more ingenious economic system reform and tax system adjustment to save the empire. However, if a new social system cannot be cultivated, it is impossible for the empire to escape and eventually perish. Considering that there has never been a unified dynasty with such a southern political center in history, it is difficult to predict the final outcome. But it was nothing more than the peasant uprising that ended this troubled times.

The Mongols are still unlikely to break through the Great Wall. Judging from the comprehensive performance of this group of people during this period, they robbed across the Great Wall at most, and it is difficult to copy Genghis Khan's great achievements!

As for me, it's really hard to say. If/kloc-the Imperial Capital was attacked by Japanese pirates in the middle of the 6th century, the imperial central government was furious and the navy was developed, it is estimated that the Wanli Korean War would be another scene! In that case, is there any chance for Jurchen between Baishan and Heishui? It is debatable. Maybe they will make a scene in Chenghua years, then spend more than ten years with the empire, and finally be destroyed like Yang Yinglong in Bozhou!

But there is no doubt that the empire will vigorously develop its maritime power, which is determined by the terrain and an inevitable historical trend!

What would happen if the capital of the Ming Dynasty was in Nanjing?

According to historical data, China's economic center of gravity moved southward from the Song Dynasty, and in the Ming Dynasty, Jiangnan was the richest area in China. Nanjing, the capital, has realistic advantages in economy, and its proximity to the economic zone is conducive to reducing the administrative costs of the imperial court and reducing the waste of resources.

But friends who are familiar with history should know that China's military pressure since ancient times has been in the north, not in the south, so every dynasty will invest a lot of resources in the military struggle on the northern border, and the Ming Dynasty is no exception. The northern border is too far away from Nanjing, and it is easy for border officials to control a huge army and form a military group that threatens the emperor. Moreover, emperors of various countries are also prone to doubt their heavily armed opponents, which is also the inevitable reason why the hero aquamarine eventually became a tragedy.

At the same time, we also know that the army in the north has more actual combat opportunities than the army in the south, and with the longer the founding of the People's Republic of China, the combat effectiveness of the troops in the frontier will become stronger and stronger, surpassing the capital. If the northern border will rebel, how can Nanjing's army win militarily? Here, we see that Li Jinglong led 600,000 troops against Judy's 65,438+10,000 troops and was beaten out of the water. Of course, the southern army enjoyed it for too long, which led to military discipline chaos.

So imagine, if the capital of the Ming Dynasty has been in Nanjing, the longer the time, the more unstable the country will be, the easier it will be for the heroes in the northern border town to break away from the central control and become an independent kingdom, and eventually Enemy at the Gates. I think even if there is no rebellion, there will be another master Zhu or some border generals to rebel, and maybe the Ming Dynasty will soon fall into division. Judy, who has lived in the north for a long time, also knew these truths after she proclaimed herself emperor, so she decided to move her capital to the north.

With Nanjing as its capital and relying on the natural barrier of the Yangtze River, it is the heart of the country, which can be attacked and retreated.

From a modern perspective, in fact, Nanjing's position may not be worse than Beijing's. It goes without saying that the Yangtze River basin is directly controlled, and the Yellow River basin is remotely controlled by the Beijing-Hangzhou Grand Canal overlooking Huaisi. More importantly, choosing Nanjing is bound to sprout a sense of sea power, which is the inevitable direction of strategic defense to defend the capital.

The discovery of Taiwan Province Province by the State of Wu in the Three Kingdoms period is an obvious proof, and it ignored the legend of Zheng He's voyage to the West in unofficial history and vigorously developed ocean transportation in the early Ming Dynasty. This is extremely rare since ancient times, and it has to be said that it has a certain connection with Nanjing, the capital of Zhu Yuanzhang.

Nanjing, with its capital, will also change its defense strategy against nomadic people in the north. We can take history as a mirror to see the three wonders and three links in the western regions of the Han Dynasty. During the Western Han Dynasty, the country was strong, which had a great influence on the western regions, and the political situation was chaotic, and it lost control of the western regions. However, during the Eastern Han Dynasty, why it was basically difficult to maintain its influence on the Western Regions had a lot to do with moving the capital to Luoyang. Because the capital moves eastward, Liang Yong's defensive circle is enough to ensure the safety of Luoyang, so it is not necessary to drive so far to the west. The ancient logistics pressure is unimaginable for modern people.

So if the Ming Dynasty makes Nanjing its capital, it will be the same. The first line of the Great Wall is likely to be the northernmost line of defense and will not break into the pass. Then the northern provinces adjacent to the grassland may lose their natural responsibility to protect Beijing, which will be more dangerous and declining. On the other hand, East China, Central China, South China and Sichuan will become the key development areas of the country, so that they can actually survive the bad weather during the Little Ice Age. This will be a completely different history, and the whole track of Chinese civilization will be completely changed.

Of course, history is history, and the above is just fantasy. There's no point in having fun.

This kind of "if" question is reasonable. The old lady said that the old lady was right, but it didn't happen after all.

To put it simply, if the capital had not moved northward, Judy and Zhu Zhanji's suppression of the southern gentry would have been more serious than in history.

A very important reason for Judy's going north is that his inherent territory is in the north. He stayed in Nanjing and had too many constraints, so he hoped to develop in the north. To put it simply, Judy wants to save trouble.

If Zhu Laosi is determined to stay, then the southern cremation will obviously suffer another blow.

Such a blow was not good for the southern gentry, but good for the court. After the middle and late Ming dynasty, the root of the court's control over the south gradually weakened lies in this. After the center was too far away from the south and its control ability was weak, the south gradually separated from the court.

Judy and Zhu Zhanji were both powerful and capable emperors in politics. If we can suppress them for decades, it will be very beneficial to the overall stability of the Ming Dynasty.

Of course, the southern gentry not only short-circuited, but also attacked the court. Only if you shrink one point, I will deduct one point. If the court can suppress the southern gentry more forcefully, the forces like Lindong Party and Fu She Society may be stronger in the later period, but they will not be as radical politically as in history.

But there is another possibility, that is, the imperial power controls the south too strictly, which may also limit the development of commercial trade in the south, and of course may also affect the court's resolutions.

Like opening the sea. One of the important reasons why the opening of the sea has been blocked is that the northerners along the Caohe River refused to let go. Northerners along the Caohe River thought that they could not participate in maritime trade, and the manpower along the Caohe River was extremely huge, which made the Ming government afraid to open the sea easily.

Some people say that the Ming Dynasty didn't open the sea because southerners went to the sea privately and didn't want the court to share a piece of it. This is complete nonsense. No matter how stupid a person is, if the country comes forward, it is definitely more beneficial to do business with military guarantees than to do it secretly. Refer to Song Dynasty Marketing Department. For smugglers, it is true that they have to pay some taxes when they open the sea, but if they don't open the sea, don't they have to pay taxes to Yan Siqi, Zheng Zhilong, Xiang Liu and others? In addition to the big pirates, there are also small pirates. Before Zheng Zhilong unified the East China Sea, there were many small pirates who often lost their money at once. Would you like to be a serious businessman and pay taxes to the government or to the little pirates who will be wiped out that day?

In history, most people who proposed to open the sea were southerners. For example, Qian Wei in Zhejiang, Qiu Jun in Hainan, Wang in Zhejiang and so on.

In addition to economic benefits, opening the sea can also cause a serious blow to Japanese pirates. When Yongle went by sea, Judy ordered an army escort. There are many records in history about the convoy attacking pirates who want to rob. For example, when Chen Boxuan of Pingjiang was in charge of the sea, he met pirates in Shaman and chased them all the way to North Korea. There is also a record of chasing pirates to Baishan Island in Jinchuan. Even Tang Jian is just a hundred families in Dingyuanwei, Zhejiang, chasing people to Yizhou, North Korea.

However, the officials along the Caohe River and the interest groups intertwined with them refused to give up, leaving the sea passage empty.

If Nanjing is the capital, the role of Caohe River will not be as great as in history, and it may be feasible to open the sea.

To put it simply, if the capital is Nanjing, Judy will be more restricted and may not be able to solicit it herself, so he needs to spend a lot of energy to win over and suppress the southern gentry. After all, Judy lives in the north and is not familiar with the south. But if Judy can survive this, it will be of great benefit to the Ming Dynasty.

Moreover, if Mongolia hadn't been beaten so badly by the Ming Dynasty, it might be difficult for Manchuria to rise. Historically, the rise of the northern conference semifinals was due to the fact that the Central Plains eliminated the original conference semifinals clan and did not occupy this territory, which led to the new tribe filling this power vacancy. Nurhachi was able to conquer Mongolia because no one on the grassland could really fight, so he had to chase after Ligedan Khan all the time. Therefore, if Judy hadn't beaten Mongolia so badly, the Manchu people might not have the opportunity to be presumptuous on the grassland. However, the Ming Dynasty may face a stronger Mongolia than in history, not necessarily. This kind of thing is hard to say. )

It's just that how does Zhu Can Di know what future generations will develop into? If so, I don't think Judy will move north.

1. If the capital was in Nanjing at that time, the Ming Dynasty might not have survived Emperor Chongzhen. The prosperous place in the south of the Yangtze River is full of feasts, and the rulers are prone to corruption. In addition, the dynasties with Nanjing as the capital were short-lived historical "fates" (Nanjing is known as the Stone City), which is estimated to be beneficial to the continuation of the Ming Dynasty 100.

2. If Emperor Chongzhen went south to Nanjing before the situation got out of control in Chongzhen 17, even if he sent a prince or even one of his sons to Nanjing, the chances of the Ming Dynasty's demise would be smaller. After Emperor Si Zonglie hanged himself, it was precisely because the legitimacy of Nanjing's heir to the throne was questioned that the Qing Dynasty easily occupied Nanjing.

The reasons for the demise of Ming Dynasty are very complicated, and the capital problem is one of them. Wu Ming, fate, providence! Non-humans can prevent it.

Then the Ming dynasty ended early, with Nanjing as its capital and short-lived dynasties or exiled governments.

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