How about Shenzhen IBM GDC? Development space and remuneration?

[ About IBM ]

In recent years, IBM has been adjusting its strategic layout around the world. South America, Eastern Europe, East Asia, South Asia and Southeast Asia have gradually become important areas in its planning. For example, it has opened a new Command Center in the Philippines, built global service execution centers (IBM Global Delivery Center) in India, China, South America and other places, and expanded ITD in China to replace the ITD department originally located in Europe. Among them, India has the largest layout. India's importance to IBM now seems to have surpassed that of China and Japan.

IBM in China is controlled by IBM china. It currently has three wholly-owned subsidiaries: IGSC, ISSC/ICGD, and ETC.

IBM china: International Business Machines (China) Co., Ltd. is responsible for strategic holdings, research and development, government public relations, sales, etc. CDL and CSDL are currently being prepared by IBM china.

IBM IGSC:

IBM Global Services Company, International Business Machines Global Services (China) Co., Ltd., formerly IBM Global Services, became a wholly-owned subsidiary in January 2007. Focus on domestic after-sales and technical support.

IBM ISSC/ICGD:

IBM Solution & Services Company/IBM China Global Delivery, IBM Integrated Systems Solutions (China) Company/International Business Machines Global Services (China) Executive Center, sometimes also called IBM Global Delivery China or IBM Global Delivery Center (China). Focus on IBM's outsourcing business and technical maintenance.

IBM ETC:

IBM Engineering Technology Company, International Business Machinery Engineering Technology (China) Co., Ltd., is currently small in scale.

IBM entered Taiwan in 1956 and Hong Kong in 1957. It entered the mainland in 1985 after the reform and opening up (the same year as HP). It was first located in the Great Wall Sheraton Hotel in Beijing. After several changes, it was gradually moved to The current Yingke Center. When IBM China started its business, the core team was basically drawn from Taiwan and Hong Kong. Currently, the top management of IBM China are basically all from non-Mainland backgrounds. The highest-performing mainlander currently is Mr. Fan Yu (band D) who has been in business since 1985. , has become the flag of the mainland.

In Asia, the relationship between IBM and Hong Kong's Yingke Digital is unusual. The Greater China Group headquarters and IBM HongKong both reside in the PCCW Building. IBM's Asian pacific headquarters also moved from Tokyo, Japan to Shanghai in 2006.

[About people working at IBM]

Those who wear IBM badges are not necessarily IBM employees. Blue Express (Blue Express) also wears IBM badges because it serves customers on behalf of IBM. IBM work badges are distributed in IBM offices across the country; the IBM personnel managers you meet during interviews may not necessarily be from IBM, as many of IBM's personnel are outsourced. Those who don’t have an IBM badge are naturally not IBMers, such as ISTC Great Wall International.

People working in IBM are mainly divided into three types: regular, contractor, and suplemental. Contractor is a contract worker, which can be understood as outsourcing. It does not follow IBM salary standards and does not enjoy IBM salary and benefits.

Supplemental is paid by the hour. IBMer is actually calculated as regular in IBM China, IGSC, ISSC/ICGD, and ETC. This can be found on BP (Blue Page/IBM's global address book).

Why does IBM make it so complicated? The reason is simple: control costs. IBM's products are sold all over the country. If IGSC branches are set up in every province and city, how much additional cost will it cost? If the IT market goes down one day and an economic crisis comes, what will these new people do? Setting up contractors and suplementals can solve this problem. When you want to lay off employees, it is justifiable. When the market is sluggish, just let Lan Kuai lay off the extra people.

[About band]

IBM employees are divided into levels according to band, and the salary is directly linked to the band. Bands range from band0 to band10, and then up are D, C, B, A, AA, TN, one *** is level 17. Most of the grassroots employees are concentrated in band4~band7. In the first year of Chinese graduates, band 90 is selected. After one year of pure blue training and observation, the band is determined. The general sales category starts with band 5 and band 6, and the technical category depends on the department. IBM China Laboratory (CDL) and Software Development Center (CSDL) in Beijing ) Since those with higher status start from band 6, GTS, SO, ITD employees in IGSC and ISSC/ICGD are not so lucky and have to start from band 4. However, some positions do not have band 6 and can be directly promoted from band 5 to band 7, such as SSR (System Services Representative).

Band is also a means of cost control at IBM. IBM implements equal pay for equal bands. The band salary standards in second-tier cities are the same as those in Beijing and Shanghai, but there are generally more low-level bands in second-tier cities.

If Blue Kuai employees are sent to work at IBM, they will be designated as contractors, starting from band 3.

The above is only for graduates. The band recruited by the company must be based on their true ability.

Band TN and AA should only be awarded to members of the IBM board of directors or CEOs of each region. This level is generally called Assignee-In, such as Asia-Pacific CEO, Greater China CEO, IBM Japan CFO, etc.

[About IBM salary, benefits and benefits]

IBM salary (MBS/Monthly Basic Salary) is linked to band level:

Mainland

Band3 3000 ~ 4500 rmb

Band4 4000 ~ 5500 rmb

Band5 5000 ~ 8000 rmb

Band6 6000 ~ 10000 rmb

Band7 8000 ~ 16000 rmb

Band8 gt; 15000 rmb (Band8 and above belong to non-first-line managers and are not listed here)

IBM China and IGSC will receive an additional 800rmb monthly subsidy on the basis of the above. MBS is issued for 14 months a year, and the end-of-year assessment is also issued for an additional 1 to 2 months

ISSC/ICGD and ETC do not have 800 subsidies. MBS is issued for 13 months a year, and the end-of-year assessment is also issued for an additional 1 to 2 months. moon.

House subsidy depends on the region.

There is no comparison between Hong Kong, Taiwan and mainland China. In Hong Kong, band 4 can directly get almost 17,000HKD, while in the mainland, it is equivalent to band 8.

IBM china, IGSC, ISSC/ICGD, and ETC do not have Spring Festival opening red envelopes, and the same applies to mainland China and Hong Kong.

IBM working hours are from 9 am to 6 pm. Overtime (OT/over time) after 6 o'clock on weekdays is calculated as twice the salary, and three times on holidays. IGSC, ISSC/ICGD, and ETC are all Similarly, some departments in ISSC/ICGD need to work shifts because they undertake foreign projects, and there will be corresponding shift subsidies.

There is no overtime pay for Band 6 and above working overtime.

Business formal attire is required from Monday to Thursday, and business casual attire is required on Friday. The first-line workers facing customers are strict, while the second-line technical and back-office workers seem to be more casual. 10 days of annual leave a year, 2 days of free leave, and one day of sick leave per month, plus Christmas, 25 days of leave throughout the year, and others are governed by national laws.

If you stay in a four- or five-star contracted hotel on a business trip, the subsidy is calculated according to the currency of the place of business travel, mainland China 250rmb/day, Hong Kong 330HKD, Taiwan 1300NTD, the United States 47dollar, Japan 8650jpy. Every IBM employee will be issued an AE gold card for business trips, with a limit ranging from 10,000 to 50,000.

Report all taxi expenses required for work, whether it is overtime, business trips or meetings with clients.

The above is applicable to IBM china, IGSC, ISSC/ICGD, and ETC.

The annual salary of IBM CEO 2007 is reported to be 1.8 million salary and 5 million bonus, totaling 6.8 million US dollars, which is less than 50 million when converted into RMB. CEOs in other regions should not exceed this standard.

[About IBM training]

Training for employees in Greater China is generally concentrated in Beijing (Yingke Center), Shanghai (now Zhangjiang), Guangzhou (Zhongtai Plaza), In Shenzhen (Lingming Building) and Hong Kong (Yingke Center), new employees recruited from the school will go to Beijing to participate in Pure Blue training after graduation, and those from Hong Kong will also fly over. There are relatively few business trips from mainland China outside the Greater China area, and they usually send people with band 7 or above. Colleagues from Hong Kong usually participate in overseas training and then train in mainland China after returning.

Because ISSC/ICGD is responsible for overseas outsourcing projects, it has the opportunity to go to IBM Europe (EMEA/Europe & Middle East Area) for training.

Although the salary at IBM is not high, there is a lot of training. If you see people wearing suits and carrying IBM bags at the entrance of Hilton, Great Wall Sheraton, Shangri-La, and Kempinski, they are basically IBM people.

[About IBM promotion]

It is very slow to promote band in mainland China. Generally, it takes about 2 to 3 years from band 4 to band 5. It takes 3 to 6 years to advance to band 5 and above. Band 7 It's a hurdle to get to band8. Band8 starts as a manager. If you don't go up, you can't go up. Since IGSC has accepted many former senior employees, there are currently many band7 employees who have worked there for more than ten years. ISSC/ICGD started in 2002, and was promoted a lot from IBM China and HongKong to serve as the first-line manager. The band8 I cultivated by myself should not be available yet.

Since Blue Express and Great Wall International (ISTC) are joint ventures of IBM, some management positions are also held by IBM band 7 and 8.

There are fewer opportunities for promotion in Hong Kong than in mainland China. It is not uncommon for people who have been in band 5 for ten years to work.

[About IBM is not like IBM]

Many people think that IBM’s salary is not high. Compared with HP and SUN, IBM’s current salary in the industry is indeed low. There are several reasons:

1) IBM’s status in the hearts of mainland people is too high. If you ask a street sweeper about IBM, he will know that it is a very good computer company. Everyone thinks that IBM is great, so the salary should be very high. But the market competition is too fierce, and no company wants to save labor costs, as evidenced by HSBC's HSBC Software Development Center in Guangzhou, HP's HP GDCC in Shanghai, and IBM's global ISSC/ICGD.

2) During Gerstner’s administration, IBM had just entered China, and the salaries and bands set for employees at that time were indeed higher than they are now. However, after Peng Meisheng came to power in 2002, he promoted an employment system that was in line with Japanese companies. Thoughts (he himself served as the chairman of Japan's ISSC for four years, during which time ISSC became the core organization of IBM's global services), cost saving is imperative. This is one of the important reasons why ISSC/ICGD has achieved great development internationally in recent years. It is also one of the reasons why there is not much turnover of old employees before 2002 in IBM in China, while the turnover of employees from 2003 to 2007 has increased. one.

It should be said that the widespread rumors on the Internet that IBM salaries are generally low are indeed true. There are also claims on the Internet that ISSC/ICGD and ETC are not IBM. In fact, whether it is ISSC/ICGD, ETC or the future IGSC , it should be said that they are both IBM, but not the IBM that everyone thinks.

[About the past and present of IGSC and ISSC/ICGD]

Before 2002, IBM only had IBM china in China. After Peng Meisheng came to power in 2002, he carried out drastic reforms of IBM. Many countries with low labor costs have opened IBM Global Service Execution Centers (ISSC), and in 2006, IBM Global Services Co., Ltd. (IGSC) was established based on the original Global Services Department. Completed the strategic layout of IBM holding, IGSC responsible for services, ISSC/IGDC responsible for maintenance and technical support, and ETC responsible for engineering technology.

In India, IGSC India (IBM Global Services India Pvt Ltd) is continuing to expand. In China, IGSC china has gradually begun to expand to some larger second-tier cities. It has or plans to expand to Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Shenyang, Wuhan, Hangzhou, Ningbo, Xi'an, Jinan, Tianjin, Hefei, Shijiazhuang, Taiyuan, and Fuzhou. , Nanjing, Hangzhou, Chengdu, Chongqing and other places.

ISSC was first established in Japan, originally translated as IBM Integrated System Solutions Co., Ltd., and made great contributions to the revival of IBM led by Gerstner in the 1990s. The then ISSC Chairman (1993~1997 ) Peng Meisheng also became the eighth CEO of IBM in 2002 and has been in charge ever since. China's ISSC was established in 2002 and has been renamed IBM Global Delivery Centre. The concept of GDC was probably launched by IBM around 2004. Currently, IBM has 24 GDCs around the world, including 7 in India, located in Bangalore, Pune, Gurgaon, Hyderabad (2005), Kolkata (2006), Chenai ( 2007), Noida (200); 4 in China, namely Shenzhen (2002), Dalian (2005), Shanghai (2006), Chengdu (2007); others in Russia, Hungary, Romania, Czech Republic, Brazil, Argentina, Philippines, Vietnam, etc. The exact location is unknown.

[About IBM’s campus recruitment]

The fastest way for students to enter IBM is internship. IBM IGSC, ISSC/ICGD, and ETC are available on some recruitment websites every year for juniors and seniors. It is easier to recruit interns in the senior year than to participate in campus recruitment.

Traditional IBM campus recruitment was only concentrated in a few universities in Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou such as Peking University, Tsinghua, Fudan, Sun Yat-sen University, and South China University of Technology. Only after the establishment of ISSC/ICGD in recent years did IBM campus recruitment Recruitment has expanded to second-tier cities such as Chengdu, Wuhan, and Dalian. Since IGSC was established not long ago, the scale of ETC is slightly smaller, and the recruitment trends are unknown.