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With the improvement of mobile phone camera function, ordinary people's daily street shooting can be done with smart phones. The camera functio

Can OPPO's Reno photos compare with Huawei P30pro?

With the improvement of mobile phone camera function, ordinary people's daily street shooting can be done with smart phones. The camera functio

Can OPPO's Reno photos compare with Huawei P30pro?

With the improvement of mobile phone camera function, ordinary people's daily street shooting can be done with smart phones. The camera function of mobile phone has been paid more and more attention. Recently, Huawei P30 Pro and OPPO Reno 10x zoom versions of two "telescopes" have been released one after another. The starting prices are 5488 and 3999 respectively. As two popular mobile phones with the main camera function on the market, their camera performance is also of great concern to everyone.

Here we will roughly compare the camera performance of these two mobile phones for your reference. Due to the space problem, this paper only makes some comments on the camera performance of the rear lens.

First, the parameters

The parameters look boring, but they can still reflect the basic quality of the camera. Huawei P30 Pro is a rear 4-camera, but one of the TOF lenses is generally not involved in camera imaging, so it is temporarily ignored. Usually, two mobile phones take three photos from the back to complete the photo work. The specific parameters are as follows:

Huawei P30 Pro:

Main camera: 40 million pixels (F 1.6, IMX650),11.7 inch light-sensitive area, RYYB incident light, supporting OIS equivalent focal length of 27 mm

Sub-camera1:20 megapixel super wide angle (F2.2), equivalent focal length 16mm.

The auxiliary camera has a telephoto of 2.8 million pixels (F3.4) and supports OIS equivalent focal length of 125mm.

Zoom function: 5x optical, 10x mixed, 50x digital.

Oppo Reno 10x zoom edition:

Main camera: 48 million pixels (F 1.7, IMX586), 1/2.0 inch photosensitive area, RGGB incident light, supporting 26mm OIS equivalent focal length.

Sub-camera1:8 megapixel super wide angle (F3.0), 120 equivalent focal length 17mm.

Sub-camera 2:13 megapixel periscope telephoto lens (F2.2), prism anti-shake (double OIS) equivalent focal length 140 mm.

Zoom function: 5x optical zoom, 10x mixed optics, 20x digital.

In terms of parameters, the quality of the main lens of Huawei P30 Pro will be better. The IMX650 sensor (jointly developed by Huawei and Sony, exclusively owned by Huawei) is slightly stronger than the IMX586 of OPPO Reno 10 zoom version, including aperture and photosensitive area. ) P30 Pro was upgraded to RYYB filter, and the light input increased by 40%. Therefore, under the same conditions, P30 Pro can have more light to ensure the restoration of details. Theoretically, the shooting effect will be better.

In terms of telephoto, the parameters of OPPO Reno 10x zoom version seem to be better. As for the 20x and 50x digital zoom promoted by both parties, I just want to say: Just have a look. Because the digital zoom beyond the optical zoom range is obtained by P+ image clipping algorithm. The effect of the AI algorithm of the manufacturer is still not ideal, so don't expect too much from the camera effect other than 5 times optical zoom.

Of course, both mobile phones have the ability of 5 times optical zoom, which has been very prominent in the current smart phones. In other words, the telephoto shooting performance of these two phones is one of the best in the industry at present.

Let's take a look at the performance of two mobile phone samples. The proofs come from Lei Technology: First, the shooting effect in the daytime with sufficient light.

Daily street shooting uses 1X mode, and photos at this time are taken by the main camera. In the case of sufficient light, there is little difference in imaging quality between the two. However, due to training reasons, the photos of Reno 10x zoom version are slightly cold, while P30 Pro will be more natural.

Super wide-angle mode, the visual angle between the two is not much different.

In 10x mode, we can see that both cameras have good detail reduction. But the cold effect of Reno 10x zoom version is more and more obvious. The problem of algorithm tuning may be solved by system upgrade in the future.

Shoot two mobile phones with the maximum focal length, and you can see whether it is 20 times zoom or 50 times zoom. The picture quality is the same, but it comes from the cropping of the picture. We shouldn't use such a high zoom in our daily use.

Let's take a look at the night shooting effect:

The above picture was taken in 10x zoom+night view mode. In the case of insufficient light at night, P30 Pro's IMX650 main camera shows its advantages. Outsole +RYYB lamp can keep more details. We see that the picture on the left is cleaner and more transparent.

Also in the mode of 10x zoom+night scene, we can see that P30 Pro keeps more details while suppressing highlights. The resolution of the whole picture is also better.

In the conventional super wide-angle and 1x+ night vision modes, the imaging effects of the two modes are completely different. Reno highlighted all the building instructions with the help of the algorithm. This style may be more pleasing to the eye, but personally feel that Huawei's night scene is more realistic and the suppression of lighting will be better.

Finally, the TOF lens on Huawei P30 Pro is not useless. Huawei uses it as a depth-of-field lens. Pure AI algorithm can also get background blur, but it will be better to let ToF lens measure depth of field and AI algorithm make blur effect.

To sum up: in fact, it is still the same truth to get what you pay for. The imaging effect of Huawei P30 Pro main camera is better than that of OPPO Reno 10x zoom version. But the performance of wide-angle and telephoto end is similar. The advantage of Huawei imaging is mainly reflected in the lack of light-daily street shooting in the daytime with sufficient light, and there is not much difference between the two.

Finally, in terms of software and AI tuning, Huawei has become more mature with the changes of several generations of P series. OPPO Reno is a newcomer after all, and there is still room for improvement in software and algorithms. I believe that in the future, through the optimization of oppo engineers' algorithms, the gap between them will be further narrowed.

As a consumer, how should we choose?

The choice is not difficult, for ordinary consumers. OPPO Reno 10x zoom camera meets the current mainstream flagship machine standards. It will not lose to Huawei P30 Pro in the effect of daily street shooting or daytime landscape shooting. The price is also more advantageous.

And if you require higher imaging quality or pursue more manual control. Huawei P30 Pro can better satisfy you. Especially its powerful analytical ability in night mode. It should be the most powerful smartphone at present.

On the other hand, in front of professional photographic equipment. The gap between the two smartphones is negligible. So, it's up to you to choose or not.

Personally, do you think it is necessary to compare the two? Huawei P30 Pro is more expensive than Renault's high-end version 1000, nearly 2000 yuan. Is this interesting?

Although P30 Pro has the so-called shooting the moon and the Milky Way this time, which makes netizens "stunned", OPPO has never been embarrassed in taking pictures.

Reno series AI portrait mode and colorful mode 2.0 are both cool, and the same 10 times mixed light variable lens is better than Huawei in perception.

As a little girl who loves to record the good things in life, parameters and rankings are not the key points. What I paid for was to take good pictures-yes, "good-looking" is the most important thing.

Reno adopts composite multi-frame noise reduction and multi-frame HDR technology, and has ultra-clear night scene 2.0. The photos taken are lighter in color and look clearer and more natural. There is also HSL face color reproduction technology, customized advanced portrait style and AI intelligent beauty, which constitutes portrait mode 2.0. Compared with the engineering aesthetics of Huawei P30, Renault is more like a liberal arts student in this respect, and the photos taken are not particularly sharp and more natural and comfortable.

Other intelligent scene recognition like AI engine, taking photos can be intelligently adjusted for the scene at that time. For example, the customized algorithm of backlight selfie scene is optimized to ensure ultra-high definition backlight, and even the front soft light is carefully used, which can automatically fill the light when the selfie is dim. .....

There is also the recent 60-fold zoom, which is not lossless, but it can really bring distant food to the eyes.

This is the original picture. Look at the 60x zoom.

The license plate in the distance can be seen clearly.

So there is no proposition without comparison. In my opinion, what is suitable is the best.

In fact, do you really think the photos of Huawei p30Pro are good?

At the press conference, Huawei demonstrated its super night ability and super telephoto ability, and in fact won unanimous praise from all evaluation agencies.

Dxomark mentioned that Huawei is superior to the new imaging module replaced by ryyb, resulting in high sensitivity, but the shortcomings are also obvious. The evaluation given by dxomark official website: the problems of color cast and saturation are relatively poor.

In the blind test conducted by another evaluation media, phonearena, three sets of proofs were taken in the same scene with iPhone xs Max, Samsung s 10+ and Huawei p30 Pro. I didn't know which mobile phone the photo was taken with, so I only chose the most satisfactory photo according to my own impression.

Unfortunately, Huawei p 30 Pro scored the worst.

Link URL/news/Huawei-P30-Pro-Loss-To-iPhone-XS-and-Galaxy-S10-in-our-daytime-blind-camera-comparison _ ID1kloc-0/5225.

It gives people a feeling of picking up sesame seeds and losing watermelon.

Reno uses the universal imx 586 module. Judging from the proofs, at least there is no problem with color cast and saturation, and the overall impression is also very pleasing.

I personally think that Renault has surpassed Huawei p30Pro.

Question: Why didn't Renault go to dxomark to run points?

After reading dxomark's scoring standard, we know that machines with high scores can be called "excellent imaging quality" by objectively scoring resolution, white balance and dynamic range.

OPPO does not go in the direction of resolution and white balance from the design stage, but pursues the overall look and feel, paying attention to a pleasing look. Therefore, if it is sent away, the score will definitely be low, and it will not add negative news to yourself.

I believe that Huawei and OPPO are not upgrading their mobile phone photos to compete with others, right?

Although Huawei's "Crater Mountain on the Moon" incident attracted attention, ryyb's new imaging module may not meet my psychological expectations. The color of the photo taken is obviously different from that actually seen. This is about picking up sesame seeds and losing watermelon.

Comparatively speaking, the photo taken by OPPO Reno will have a better color balance and the overall impression of imaging. Similar to the style of iphone, the upgrade of this photo is very successful.

In terms of software algorithm, Renault's AI portrait mode and colorful mode 2.0, with OPPO for so many years, the basic rendering effect of portrait photography is very stable. It is also surprising to optimize the dark light mode of night scenes with AI. When shooting the night scene, the characters and background are beautiful and undistorted. Personally, I prefer this realistic style. The purpose of taking pictures is to record life, so it is better to retouch the pictures later.

In terms of hardware parameters, there is little difference between P30 and Reno, which is 5 times optical and 10 times mixed. Reno 4800W pixel main camera+1300W pixel telephoto +800W pixel wide-angle mixed three-camera combination is dominant as a whole, and dual OIS anti-shake can ensure clarity.

The tenfold edition hasn't come on the market yet, but my little sister in our dormitory just bought a standard edition and took a photo of our bachelor's uniform. It's really hard.

Huawei and Renault can catch up with each other, which is a good thing in itself and benefits consumers. But it doesn't matter who is better, what matters is what kind of photo effect consumers prefer. I might prefer Renault.

For those of us who don't know how to take pictures, I can only compare the parameters here.

1.oppo

2. Huawei P30 Pro: equipped with four rear cameras, with a main camera of 40 million pixels and a large aperture of f/ 1.6; It has a 20-megapixel super wide-angle lens and an f/2.2 aperture; The third lens is an 8-megapixel telephoto lens with an aperture of f/3.4, which supports 10x hybrid optical zoom and 50x digital zoom. Both the main lens and telephoto lens support optical image stabilization. The fourth lens is a ToF sensor, which is used to collect 3D depth information.

Are all such parameters. It's too complicated and messy. Send 2 pictures to see the effect.

In this way, the contrast is much clearer, and the real shot renderings will be better for OPPO.

OPPO is not making mobile phones to defeat Huawei, and Huawei is not staring at OPPO when making mobile phones. Although the competition in the mobile phone market is fierce, it is far from life and death. Everyone has their own advantages, and ultimately it is the users who please them. Therefore, OPPO is not as important as Huawei, and it is important to satisfy users to ensure sales.

Can Renault fight or not? My answer is: Yes!

In the final analysis, the vast majority of mobile phone photography scenes are ordinary users who want to take good photos anytime and anywhere. Therefore, the user's requirements for the algorithm and user experience are far more than the requirement to keep every detail as perfect as possible.

When I experienced my friend's Mate20Pro in Erhai Lake, I started using Huawei's ai camera for the first time. It's really amazing. The picture is very bright. The contrast between different levels is greatly increased, even more prominent than the actual impression of the naked eye. But when I took more than 10 photos, I found that the photos had a strong "greasy feeling", which was really too bright. Especially for the super macro shooting of flowers, the image processed by Huawei has a stronger sense of color tailing, similar to the picture below.

Judging from the real shot samples of Renault released by online digital bloggers, Renault's image processing has no trace of deliberate algorithm processing, no matter at night or during the day. The introduction of larger aperture and the blessing of the new algorithm of Super Night Scene 2.0 make Renault have enough light in dark conditions. Perhaps this is what Shen Yiren said, "I hope to bring real clarity to users."

Dual optical image stabilization not only ensures high-level imaging quality, but also solves the problem of serious image jitter under high zoom. Moreover, from the portrait proofs on the Internet, the improvement of background blurring and model matting is also very obvious.

Having said that, whether Renault can be better than Huawei can't be concluded, but at least taking pictures in the flagship echelon is undoubtedly there.

OPPOReno and Huawei p30 pro pediatrics are different. Is it comparable? Huawei p30 pro creates fashion lovers.

Seeing three iQOO, vivo X27 and OPPO Reno in the blue-green factory, the so-called flagship machine wants to smile [smile] [cover his face], Huawei p30 pro has crushed the apple, and the next 5G Huawei mate 30Pro flagship machine is equipped with the latest Kirin 985 processor, a 6.67-inch 4k curved screen (and a 7.2-inch 5000-battery version), and a hole in the upper left corner of the front selfie is 32 million pixels. The rear main camera is 60 million+28 million 125 degree super wide-angle lens+20 million super zoom lens+5 million periscope night scene+2 million depth-of-field lens, supporting 5 times optical 10 times mixed 50 times digital zoom, double anti-shake, 42 million batteries with 40w fast charge, 68-level dustproof and waterproof, and seven-generation screen. At present, the performance of mobile phones is excessive. 230 yuan's Snapdragon 7 10 and Kirin 7 10 are enough for the hand tour, instead of 460 yuan's Snapdragon 845 and Kirin 970. Therefore, Huawei continues to develop in the direction of photography, so Kirin 985 improves the processing performance of camera photos to 60 million pixels. On the other hand, domestic friends and businessmen have no autonomy in Qualcomm. However, Apple's technology is too backward. Its A 12 processor, like Xiaolong processor, supports up to 30 million photographic images, so don't expect its next new opportunity to bring any surprise to the fruit powder in photography, that is, the first12 million selfie and the second12 million main camera+12 million depth of field.

It is normal for mobile phone manufacturers to compete with each other. There is no question of who is better than who. It's also drunk to read so many comments about Huawei ... All of them are domestic brands, and their sales are among the best in China. Can there be such a big gap? Are you sure it's not rhythmic?

In my opinion, it is good for mobile phone manufacturers to compete with each other. Consumers always suffer. So, you really don't need to step on who you are holding. There is competition to make progress. It's not too late to think about whether Renault's technology is awesome this time.

As far as I know, this 10x hybrid optical zoom technology was demonstrated by OPPO 20 17 at MWC, a little earlier than Huawei, and it was officially commercialized on 20 19.

With the help of three cameras with different focal lengths, the equivalent focal length is 16mm- 160mm, covering the ordinary focal length, and it can be freely switched between scenes such as super wide angle, night shooting and telephoto. Especially focusing on the telephoto mode, through the combination of 4800W pixel main shot+1300W pixel telephoto +800W pixel wide angle, we strive to achieve the effect that shooting distant scenes seems to be in front of us.

At the same time, the main camera is also equipped with a large aperture of f/ 1.7, so Reno's weak light performance is better and the night shooting performance is further improved. Also set up a dual OIS optical image stabilization, which can reduce the impact of mobile phone jitter and take care of people who shake hands.

In addition to long-range shooting and night shooting, Reno successfully "stuffed" three cameras into the fuselage while achieving 10 times hybrid optical zoom, ensuring thinness, while the cameras were not prominent, so Reno's back design was smooth and the face value was online, which satisfied the obsessive-compulsive patients who pursued the face value of mobile phones.

I didn't make these up, they are all true facts. Therefore, instead of talking empty words across the screen and following the trend, it is better to go to a physical store and experience it for yourself, which may update your cognition ~

Let me answer: Renault wants to win Huawei, no way! There is a simple reason. I took mate20X and compared it in Renault Showcase (version 855). Huawei won completely! At first, the shopping guide told me how this photo was NB, but after I showed it to her, she could only admit awkwardly that Huawei was better at taking photos. Facts speak plainer than words. If someone doesn't believe it, it's clear to compare the scenes of Huawei!

They are all big domestic manufacturers, so don't always compare them. If you insist, from the multiple ratio of hybrid optical zoom technology, the optical zoom of Renault High Edition is 5 times, and that of P30 Pro is only 4.6 times. Theoretically, when the photo is enlarged to 10 times, the Renault High Edition should be clearer than P30 Pro ~